Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2024 20:08:08 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Quantum mystics Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2024 13:08:08 -0700 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 55 X-Trace: sv3-LPO+wx93vayU1anhCcVYONtl/Udvl/DRQNZtvzNvJZc2YqgDwBHSs2ChBY+54YsPVWCI9xiIfYEsl/M!DDaTpEYsA9k4H8IfDzIQg1YL5+O9XbzMUMYx6Y6Zoo5fzUAlCYjP6veDaX0lPLaW4zg4xaCk4r8n!CrUwuQ== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2792 On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 20:46:53 +0200, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >I just watched a talk by Anton Zeilinger, professor of physics >at the university of Vienna, and 2022 Nobel laureate, about >quantum effects and entanglement. > >I feel a rant bubbling up! Good so far! > >The guy is a mystic, a fraud! He pretended to demonstrate that >light consists of particles by showing a little box that starts >clicking, like a Geiger counter, when exposed to light. Even if >the little box really did detect light, that means nothing! Light >*detection* is quantized, yes, but that does not imply that light >itself is so too. Light isn't packaged in discrete photons of measurable energy? Of course you can't say much about a thing that has never been detected. It's just a rumor. > >He attempted to convince the public that entanglement means that >the results of measurements made at two remote places come out >identically, and without any time delay. That's just not true, >but he didn't even give a hint of how this really works. He did >not mention that you have to make *correlated* measurements to >detect entanglement. Do people still say "duh" ? >For that, you need to communicate *what* >measurement is to be made at each location, and that implies >that you either prescribe the exact measurement in advance or >select a subset of the results after the fact. Either way, this >skews the data. Most measurements, and the measuring instruments, are defined in advance of the event. Calibrated even. > >He's in it for the money and the fame. Grrr. And he's one of >many, too. That's hardly usual, or a reason to call him wrong. He won the Nobel Prize just to get free plane tickets. > >Jeroen Belleman