Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 13:32:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Alec Baldwin getting away with murder Content-Language: en-US Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <1797980814.731492324.194688.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17ba9b03ee0e9624$13863$3298354$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> From: trotsky In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 83 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 18:32:31 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 4841 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17bb7ad7df53d91f$52$3602787$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 5218 On 3/10/24 2:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article , FPP > wrote: > >> On 3/8/24 10:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article , FPP >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/7/24 5:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article >>>>> <17ba9b03ee0e9624$13863$3298354$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com>, >>>>> moviePig wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/7/2024 4:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>> In article , Alan Smithee >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 03/07/2024 01:42 PM, EGK wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:59:02 -0700, anim8rfsk >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Classic example of shit rolling downhill and our two-tiered justice >>>>>>>>> system. Baldwin is "loose" with weapons on the set and he fires the >>>>>>>>> fatal shot but because he hired a young and very inexperienced >>>>>>>>> armorer, she ends up being the perfect scapegoat. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you watch the trial yesterday? She was quoted as saying she could >>>>>>>> not be responsible for everyone on the set. Even tho it is her job to >>>>>>>> be responsible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Baldwin should be held accountable, but he will likely walk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once upon a time, I spent an afternoon on the CSI:HORATIO set as a >>>>>>> technical advisor (the episode dealt with counterfeit currency and they >>>>>>> took none of my advice regarding how what they were doing wasn't >>>>>>> accurate in any way), and in every scene with guns, as soon as they >>>>>>> yelled cut, the armorer zipped in and took everyone's pistols and put >>>>>>> them on a table over in the corner of the sound stage. He stood watch >>>>>>> over them until the resets were done and they were ready to go again, >>>>>>> then he handed them all back out again.** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (I do not know if there was a separate sunglass wrangler for David >>>>>>> Caruso.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **The armorer guy went white as a sheet near the end of the day when it >>>>>>> came to his attention that I'd been sitting on set all afternoon with >>>>>>> an actual loaded handgun under my suit coat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Based on what I saw that day and how firearms are treated on set by a >>>>>>> responsible armorer, Baldwin should never have been playing around with >>>>>>> a gun outside of an actual filmed scene, and certainly shouldn't have >>>>>>> been pointing it at people. What possible reason could he have had for >>>>>>> pointing it at the director and the DP? >>>>>> >>>>>> Was he not rehearsing a scene that called for him to point the gun at >>>>>> the camera and then to "fire"? If he was, then I can buy that he did no >>>>>> worse than most movie actors would've. >>>>> >>>>> Another thing the CSI folks had were dummy guns for such rehearsals. Big >>>>> hunks of brightly-colored plastic that are shaped like handguns. >>>>> >>>>> E.g.: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.securityprousa.com/collections/training-guns >>>>> >>>>> They used those for rehearsals and only brought out the real guns for an >>>>> actual take. Even in the actual take, only the people whose guns needed >>>>> to cycle for realism were given real firearms. Everyone else had black >>>>> painted gun replicas that were nothing but solid pieces of plastic. They >>>>> looked real on camera but had no ability to shoot anything. >>>>> >>>> Then go and try THAT case, because it has nothing to do with THIS one. >>> >>> It shows that compared to other productions in the same industry, this >>> movie was playing fast and loose with safety. >>> >> So prove that was Baldwin's fault. > > Baldwin was the producer. The captain is responsible for his ship. Isn't there a bag of dicks somewhere you can suck to make someone give a shit?