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Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi5 versus other cheap Intel based boxes for general
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 09:09:42 -0700
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On 4/3/2024 7:43 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
> N100 looks quite capable. My only concern is the whiny fans on these very small 
> enclosures. Fan noise increases rapidly with rpm and tiny fans don't move much 
> air. SFF is as small as I like to go.

Yeah, I have a few i7 NUCs that are just sitting around looking for a use.
Too small for the amount of power they can dissipate.  And, I know that
installing a disk would only make things worse.

But, USFFs can be good for single tasks (i.e., as appliances).  Using
an SSD (or PXE-boot) usually eliminates the need for a fan.

>> My 20 year old PC upstairs still runs xfree and the old audio system (before 
>> Alsa), and works still perfectly with my satellite stuff.
>> Is an AMD 486.
> 
> I haven't got much left that is quite that old. One machine from 2003 that is 
> kept mainly because it has a real parallel port needed for some bitbanging 
> programmers that I still very occasionally need to use.

I keep an older laptop with parallel/serial and FLOPPY for similar reasons.
And, a Compaq Portable 386 w/expansion chassis for a full length coprocessor
that I (rarely!) need to access (ISA bus).

> My spellchequer today wants to turn you into Panatella must be all the food 
> over the Easter Holidays that's affecting it!