Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: InstaCart Delivery Guy Shoots and Kills One of Angie Harmon's Dogs Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 00:30:11 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 175 Message-ID: <1bvu0jl90je2vev5j8ea7bkfoiegneeeri@4ax.com> References: <1437748060.733782420.649436.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17c2d83f594a4d02$139916$3265$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com> <17c30bdfdd7e92cd$124383$1768716$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com> <17c31d4bca8886e3$33222$111488$4ed50460@news.newsdemon.com> <17c34296ab7bef96$51967$3384359$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 04:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="119cbd5afeea25dc3a76f52a03eb62b7"; logging-data="1241227"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/F3HffUVovsAK6ItLsyNwgcssonGph+68=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Hhv7JLN4yAhFw1ugaj5Vcr4MAT8= Bytes: 8850 On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 22:51:36 -0400, moviePig wrote: >On 4/4/2024 9:09 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> On 4/4/2024 8:28 AM, moviePig wrote: >>> On 4/4/2024 6:08 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>> On 4/3/24 1:22 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>> On 4/3/2024 5:59 AM, FPP wrote: >>>>>> On 4/3/24 4:38 AM, shawn wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 23:45:56 -0700, anim8rfsk >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13261563/Angie-Harmon-reveals-Instacart-driver-shot-KILLED-dogs.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The actress Angie Harmon shared the devastating news that one of >>>>>>>>> her family's >>>>>>>> dogs was shot and killed by an InstaCart delivery person over the >>>>>>>> Easter >>>>>>>> weekend. The 51-year-old former LAW & ORDER star revealed on >>>>>>>> Instagram on >>>>>>>> Monday that her dog Oliver had been killed by the delivery person >>>>>>>> after he >>>>>>>> dropped off groceries to their home in Charlotte, North Carolina. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for InstaCart >>>>>>>>> shot & killed >>>>>>>> our precious Oliver," she wrote, alongside several sweet photos >>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>> deceased pet. "He got out of his car, delivered the food & THEN >>>>>>>> shot our >>>>>>>> dog. >>>>>>>> Our Ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & then >>>>>>>> knew he >>>>>>>> wasn’t >>>>>>>> being recorded. The police let him go because he claimed >>>>>>>> self-defense. He >>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>> not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. He was >>>>>>>> shopping >>>>>>>> under a woman's identity named Merle. He shot our dog with my >>>>>>>> daughters and >>>>>>>> myself at home and just kept saying, "Yeah, I shot your dog. >>>>>>>> Yeah, I did." >>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>> are completely traumatized and beyond devastated at the loss of >>>>>>>> our beloved >>>>>>>> boy and family member." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> InstaCart responded to Harmon's claims with a statement to >>>>>>>>> DailyMail.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this >>>>>>>>> incident. We have no >>>>>>>> tolerance for violence of any kind and the shopper account was >>>>>>>> immediately >>>>>>>> suspended from our platform," it said. "We have been in direct >>>>>>>> contact with >>>>>>>> the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their >>>>>>>> investigation." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In an update from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department to >>>>>>>>> TMZ, law >>>>>>>> enforcement officials confirmed that the InstaCart driver claimed >>>>>>>> he shot >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> dog in self-defense. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "The investigation revealed that a delivery driver arrived at >>>>>>>>> the residence to >>>>>>>> deliver consumable goods. The driver told officers that a dog >>>>>>>> attacked him >>>>>>>> while he was at the residence and that he defended himself by >>>>>>>> firing a >>>>>>>> single >>>>>>>> gunshot, striking and mortally wounding the dog. Another dog was >>>>>>>> present at >>>>>>>> the residence but did not attack." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They added that the department's Animal Control division was >>>>>>>>> also involved in >>>>>>>> the response to the shooting but the department confirmed that no >>>>>>>> charges >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> been filed against the driver at this time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The police department added that it was not seeking out any >>>>>>>>> other individuals >>>>>>>> in response to the shooting. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve looked at the postings online and have some questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ring doorbells are rechargeable? You can just stick them up to >>>>>>>> the front of >>>>>>>> the house and move them in and out? How come they don’t get >>>>>>>> stolen all the >>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, that has to be the case because most of them (all that I see >>>>>>> around here) are just stuck to the door so there's no power >>>>>>> connection. I haven't checked but assumed that the ring is locked to >>>>>>> the case until you use the app to unlock the ring device. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The groceries delivered Were a very small package left at the >>>>>>>> front door. I >>>>>>>> thought from the story presented he/she/it must’ve come inside to >>>>>>>> see that >>>>>>>> her ring doorbell was recharging. So I’m not sure how he/she/it >>>>>>>> knew. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I assume the actual device was missing (since it was inside >>>>>>> recharging) so the easier way to put it is that the driver saw that >>>>>>> there was no camera. He may not even have known they had a Ring >>>>>>> device >>>>>>> unless he delivered items there before. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ring is currently heavily advertising that every big moment in >>>>>>>> your life >>>>>>>> happens on your front porch and is captured by your ring doorbell >>>>>>>> video >>>>>>>> which is just galactically stupid but will they continue this >>>>>>>> campaign? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wonder what Instacart and the local police policy is on Instacart, >>>>>>>> drivers carrying weapons, potentially concealed? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My guess is just the what ever the local laws are. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They won’t do anything to he/she/it. PETA goes to peoples homes >>>>>>>> and steals >>>>>>>> their animals and kills them because they don’t think animals >>>>>>>> should be >>>>>>>> pets and it’s just a small fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, without a video of what the guy did I don't expect anything to >>>>>>> happen to him. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You're kidding, right?  Without him having proof of self defense, >>>>>> he's going to get his ass sued off. >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as criminal charges go, that'll depend on what, if anything, >>>>>> he's charged with - as well as his past record, if he has one. >>>>> >>>>> I don't want to believe there are people who'd shoot a dog with zero >>>>> provocation, and I'm guessing a jury might not want to either. >>>> >>>> You're confused.  Try "not enough provocation."  A dog growling isn't >>>> reason to execute it. >>> >>> "Not enough" is much more subjective than "zero". >>> >> I have the feeling the dog was walking up to the InstaCart person >> looking for a scritch or petting. > >Frankly, I do too. Otoh, my personal bias is that any grownup should be >willing to endure some minor mauling rather than to open fire. > > The sad thing is you can't always tell what the dog is going to do. I run into dogs being walked by their owners all the time and most dogs are just happy to see anyone but I've run into a few who seemed like they wanted some attention as they came over to me as I was walking by but clearly didn't actually want to be touched. That's taught me to always be cautious when going to pet a dog even though the owner is right there so I'll keep my fingers closed in my hand just in case the dog wants to take a nip. That said I can't imagine why the guy is running around with a gun. If he's just worried about pets attacking him a gun is massive overkill when something like pepper spray would do the job and not cause permanent harm or death.