Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!news.dfncis.de!not-for-mail From: Luigi Fortunati Newsgroups: sci.physics.research Subject: Equivalence principle Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2024 19:40:15 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Approved: hees@itp.uni-frankfurt.de (sci.physics.research) Message-ID: X-Trace: news.dfncis.de 4rz7gqqPpW1ns929bfCcXAfFELy/tIHcIlMNZ0+KRD5lNwl6iKlqIBRKhP Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZSLBEl6QzfTFMBKePu2F8VupmGI= sha256:+xKe+8WYXoePA3IdoEIUeTZ21iasPjhtDmcb64pLXtI= Bytes: 1658 the surface of a planet. So, I ask: what stops us from measuring the presence (or absence) of tidal forces? If tidal forces are there, then we are stationary on the surface of a planet, if they are not there, we are experiencing a non-gravitational acceleration. Luigi Fortunati [Moderator's remark: One has to keep in mind that the equivalence principle is a local concept, i.e., the equivalence between the observations in a gravitational field and in an accelerated frame of reference in free space refers only to very small space-time regions. A "true gravitational field" is of course never entirely equivalent to an accelerated frame in flat Minkowski space, because according to GR the gravitational field leads to space-time curvature, i.e., a non-vanishing Riemann tensor, while Minkowski space is flat, which are coordinate-independent notions, and only such notions are physically interpretable. Of course tidal forces are well observable, cf. the tides on Earth, where the name "tidal force" refers to. HvH.]