Path: ...!uucp.uio.no!fnord.no!news1.firedrake.org!nntp.terraraq.uk!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 16:52:19 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 134 Message-ID: References: <1144903136.735583756.202196.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <2060261334.735593780.114012.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17c9c7d3b228c3dc$71931$3085566$c4d58e68@news.newsdemon.com> <17c9e4bd7c6b53cc$8511$1354752$c8d58268@news.newsdemon.com> <17ca342572edf3fa$12378$2044614$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com> <17ca6a5bdb5da7d0$150469$4052113$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> <501220241.736025126.907988.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 22:52:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="28c8a92293f9678bf1d421537d776605"; logging-data="1329615"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1++D7tka/kyjQK2lQJUqRbbweRPFeY8PYk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vj3PLPVoxmQVpeKwA/6h3KJD9wM= In-Reply-To: <501220241.736025126.907988.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 8873 On 4/28/2024 3:31 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: > moviePig wrote: >> On 4/28/2024 6:19 AM, trotsky wrote: >>> On 4/27/24 2:02 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>> On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote: >>>>> On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>> On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   "This material may not be published, broadcast, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   redistributed." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> striking her but says >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   nothing about her emphatically asking for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The article says he hit her phone, not her. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>>>>>>>> idiot scumbag you >>>>>>>>>>>>> have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>>>>>>>> video that makes >>>>>>>>>>>>> me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch >>>>>>>>>>>>> an Alec Baldwin >>>>>>>>>>>>> video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>>>>>>>> revulsion, >>>>>>>>>>>>> scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or >>>>>>>>>>>>> say anything that >>>>>>>>>>>>> would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get >>>>>>>>>>>>> the benefit of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>>>>>>>> squander that >>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant >>>>>>>>>>>>> as humanly >>>>>>>>>>>>> possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, really, >>>>>>>>>>>>> quite an achievement. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, >>>>>>>>>>>> where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around >>>>>>>>>>>> his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with >>>>>>>>>>>> Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any >>>>>>>>>>>> humane aspect to Moore's message. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to >>>>>>>>>>> whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required >>>>>>>>>>> to pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, >>>>>>>>>>> as the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is >>>>>>>>>>> out of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and >>>>>>>>>>> two together and keep coming up with fifty million? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man >>>>>>>>>> evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended >>>>>>>>>> policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly >>>>>>>>>> to his persuasiveness. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an >>>>>>>>> asshole doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers >>>>>>>>> weren't either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of >>>>>>>>> sick fucks, and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the >>>>>>>>> favor of dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full >>>>>>>>> dipshit mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I >>>>>>>>> remember watching this thing they showed kids with a character >>>>>>>>> called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had >>>>>>>>> merit then, that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented >>>>>>>>> themselves into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could >>>>>>>>> profit by selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you >>>>>>>>> don't get this I feel sorry for you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and >>>>>>> torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually >>>>>>> mean so stop fucking around. >>>>>> >>>>>> The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is >>>>> your thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck >>>>> Heston's treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine. >>>> >>>> Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and >>>> harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain. >>> >>> >>> So what you're saying is the guy who belongs to the "pull yourself up by >>> the bootstraps" party was in a lot of emotional pain there?  Is this >>> some sort of exercise in disingenuousness?  Hell, no gun was pulled from >>> his cold dead hands, why didn't he brandish one at MM?  Let me guess: he >>> was just a doddering old fool at that point and just lucked out by being >>> President of the biggest lobbying organization in the history of >>> Washington.  Makes sense. >> >> What I'm saying is that, if there's nothing to gain from torture, you're >> left with merely the question of whether to cheer for it. > > You won’t know if there’s nothing to gain from torture until you try. Well, I suppose there could be some aerobic benefit...