Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!news.szaf.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: John Harshman Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: feathers (and one bird) Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 06:16:49 -0700 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 41 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References:

MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="21262"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 1EEC2229786; Sun, 12 May 2024 09:16:46 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88CB229767 for ; Sun, 12 May 2024 09:16:43 -0400 (EDT) id 8313D7D12D; Sun, 12 May 2024 13:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F30F7D12A for ; Sun, 12 May 2024 13:16:51 +0000 (UTC) by egress-mx.phmgmt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF57603C2 for ; Sun, 12 May 2024 13:16:13 +0000 (UTC) by serv-4.ord.giganews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0B3440468 for ; Sun, 12 May 2024 08:16:50 -0500 (CDT) by serv-4.i.ord.giganews.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id 44CDGn1j012704; Sun, 12 May 2024 08:16:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: serv-4.i.ord.giganews.com: news set sender to poster@giganews.com using -f X-Path: news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 13:16:49 +0000 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Original-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4564 On 5/12/24 5:28 AM, jillery wrote: > On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:28:08 -0500, DB Cates > wrote: > >> On 2024-05-11 4:30 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> JTEM presented the following explanation : >>>> DB Cates wrote: >>>> >>>>> "In October 2022 a bird with the code name B6 set a new world record >>>>> that few people outside the field of ornithology noticed. Over the >>>>> course of 11 days, B6, a young Bar-tailed Godwit, flew from its >>>>> hatching ground in Alaska to its wintering ground in Tasmania, >>>>> covering 8,425 miles without taking a single break. For comparison, >>>>> there is only one commercial aircraft that can fly that far nonstop, >>>>> a Boeing 777 with a 213-foot wingspan and one of the most powerful >>>>> jet engines in the world. During its journey, B6—an animal that could >>>>> perch comfortably on your shoulder—did not land, did not eat, did not >>>>> drink and did not stop flapping, sustaining an average ground >>>>> speed of 30 miles per hour 24 hours a day as it winged its way to the >>>>> other end of the world. >>>> >>>> It's not hard to imagine them tagging a bird, tracking it with GPS, >>>> but to know that it was continuously flapping it's wings? >>> >>> https://academic.oup.com/icb/article/48/1/134/627446 >>> >> I suppose with a rigorous enough definition of "continuous beating" they >> don't. But they are physically incapable of long gliding like an >> albatross but it is likely they use continuous beating with occasional >> short pauses, a common thing. But they know it never stopped or fed >> (continuous tracking) and it can't land on water without dying (can't >> feed and can't take off). >> The only time I've ever seen a shorebird gliding is when it is coming in >> for a landing. >> -- > > > Perhaps it was an African Gotwit. Was that a joke of some kind? If so, what?