Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Ron Dean Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: West Virginia creationism Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 20:35:56 -0400 Organization: Public Usenet Newsgroup Access Lines: 30 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: <3n8m2jtvhd0nahms2un4i2gjbt1t6bpbk2@4ax.com> <2e5n3j1u9a0pdcmpd4m78l2dssq3kns552@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="13404"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 13.4; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id E9C07229786; Tue, 14 May 2024 20:35:50 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE12229767 for ; Tue, 14 May 2024 20:35:48 -0400 (EDT) id D3A927D12A; Wed, 15 May 2024 00:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE947D128 for ; Wed, 15 May 2024 00:35:58 +0000 (UTC) by nntpmail01.iad.omicronmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7426E1695 for ; Wed, 15 May 2024 00:35:57 +0000 (UTC) id A1E0988017C; Wed, 15 May 2024 00:35:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Path: fx41.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail In-Reply-To: X-Original-Complaints-To: abuse@newsgroups-download.com X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 00:35:56 UTC Bytes: 3656 Martin Harran wrote: > On Fri, 10 May 2024 16:40:15 -0400, Ron Dean > wrote: > >> Burkhard wrote: > > [...] > >>> In fact, your opening gambit is directly expressed in the Bible: Judges >>> 10:16 or Ecclesiastes 3:19: "For what happens to the children of man and >>> what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. >>> They all have the same breath" >>> >> I question that. But this is Old Testament which Christians turn to for >> back ground, but the Old Covenant contained in the Old Testament was >> like a contract which was fulfilled by Jesus Christ and set aside. The >> new Convent contained in the New Testament is the one Christians are under. > > I'm still waiting for you to explain how you get from a God twiddling > with molecules and DNA to a God with whom we can have a personal > relationship; the type of God defined in both the Old and New > Testament; the same type of God defined by Stephen Meyer, one of the > most prominent proponents of ID, in his book 'Return of the God > Hypothesis'. > Not my call! > > [...] >