Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dhu on Gate Newsgroups: can.general,soc.culture.canada,can.politics,nf.general,bc.general,ont.general Subject: Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Followup-To: can.politics Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 09:29:15 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 75 Message-ID: References: <0001HW.2BACB51200010E34700000C6A38F@news.eternal-september.org> <0001HW.2BACBA140001F4CA7000039F938F@news.eternal-september.org> <0001HW.2BAD1D2200192A6C7000039F938F@news.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 09:29:15 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="283215ec7a94319b22d635d0dfc70de8"; logging-data="3737385"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18j5UICPRBruj9DdKgkVRrO11QCdr998wQ=" User-Agent: Pan/0.153 (Mariupol; c5405f5) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7DBMN2CWI/yjJPwKUFAh+gpCN2o= Bytes: 4144 On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:27:54 -0230, David Dalton wrote: > On Mar 21, 2024, Dhu on Gate wrote > (in article ): > >> On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 16:25:16 -0230, David Dalton wrote: >> >> > On Mar 21, 2024, David Dalton wrote >> > (in article<0001HW.2BACB51200010E34700000C6A38F@news.eternal-september.org>) >> > : >> > >> > > Instead of the federal government giving back much of the Carbon >> > > Tax in rebates, they should direct the money to improving public >> > > transit nationally, including in rural areas. >> > > >> > > For example, in recent years there has been a loss of Greyhound >> > > in Western Canada, and that contributes to the ongoing crisis >> > > os missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, since >> > > many of them resort to hitchhiking. >> > > >> > > On a local (Newfoundland) basis, several years ago there was >> > > a loss of Fleetline bus, which used to operate on the coastal >> > > Conception Bay Highway between St. John’s and Conception >> > > Bay North, and which was a valuable service fo students >> > > travelling home for the weekend and for seniors and others >> > > going into the city for medical appointments or shopping. >> > > >> > > But of course there could also be an improvement in public >> > > transit in urban (including small cities) and suburban areas. >> > > >> > > And I think the NDP would support the LIberals in such an >> > > initiative, maybe even to the extent of forming a coalition >> > > before the next election. >> > >> > And indeed, the planned transition to electric vehicles >> > is not practical; instead (or as well) there must be a >> > rapid evolution of private cars to public transit. >> >> Location, location, location, Dave. Electrics only really >> make any sense in dense urban environments, where they really >> do rock ;-) >> >> Dhu > > Perhaps hydrogen fuel cell vehicles would have a longer > range and better performance in low temperatures. The only problem with using carbo-hydrates (e.g. Kerosene) is the use of fossil carbs. Otherwise, being as most of the biology of our planet is carbohydrates, it's possible to make and use carbo fuels that won't poison the planet's plants and animals. Until someone shows me a *functioning* Fusion Reactor, they're gonna be burning COAL in China and India to make electricity AND Hydrogen. Germany too: they're back to burnin' brown coal 'cause they've shut down their nukes and don't have access to the Russian gas they'd hoped to replace them with. Dhu > > And in the long term I envisage a hyperloop backbone, > perhaps partly funded by Elon Musk. -- Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais. C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-) Duncan Patton a Campbell