Path: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 18:35:08 +0000 From: BTR1701 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's Battle With OpenAI References: <4AGdncoJueTB0cz7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 11:44:25 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 115 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-xGnFp/wqrAUOSJxga80tn+LvwLvgVhvxoZ6yfInpXNdTDh2y9zHwumnceNhJd7TZOCjub6c+bmoKxz1!LOnqbVuHMNYAHEnyKOoR4m1sk1Zwz5X8gjscthczJJOnK1xCP7mHF3JPXcD+Y/mxqC0Ko+a2tVGL!HAs= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 7049 In article , FPP wrote: > On 5/25/24 11:35 AM, BTR1701 wrote: > > FPP wrote: > >> On 5/24/24 10:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > > > >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/ar-BB1mWLqa > >>> > >>> Scarlett Johansson's powerful Hollywood agent, Bryan Lourd, wanted > >>> answers when he made an urgent call to Sam Altman last week: What do > >>> you think you're doing? > >>> > >>> Altman's artificial intelligence powerhouse, OpenAI, had for months > >>> unsuccessfully courted Johansson, who memorably voiced an AI assistant > >>> in the 2013 film HER. Last September, Johansson turned down an offer > >>> to work with OpenAI and voice a new assistant feature. > >>> > >>> Altman didn't give up. In mid-May, he texted Lourd, co-chairman of > >>> Creative Artists Agency, asking if Johansson might reconsider-- he > >>> wanted to show the actress something he'd been working on, people > >>> familiar with the interaction said. The camps couldn't settle on a > >>> time to meet. Then on May 13, OpenAI showcased an updated AI system, > >>> equipped with new voice assistants for its Chat GPT tool, including a > >>> female named Sky. > >>> > >>> Johansson was surprised and angry. She and Lourd thought-- and others > >>> agreed-- that Sky's voice sounded "eerily similar" to the actress. > >>> Lourd and the actress spent the morning fielding calls and emails from > >>> friends and associates, some of whom worried that OpenAI had simply > >>> appropriated Johansson's voice without permission. > >>> > >>> When Lourd confronted Altman, however, the OpenAI chief executive was > >>> incredulous. Did they really think the voice sounded like Johansson? > >>> Was she mad? > >>> > >>> So began the most dramatic episode yet in the collision between Hollywood > >>> and the exploding world of artificial intelligence. > >>> > >>> The emergence of AI as a rapidly advancing and perhaps unstoppable force > >>> has sparked deep anxiety in creative industries that for decades have > >>> been governed by strict rules of how creators are compensated for their > >>> work. The reason is that the language models that power generative AI > >>> chat tools are typically made using text, images, music and videos > >>> hoovered up from across the internet. That can include material that > >>> is copyrighted, valuable and often paywalled-- like Scarlett Johansson's > >>> voice. > >>> > >>> Johansson-- who just three years ago waged a blistering and public legal > >>> campaign against Disney-- hired a legal team to demand answers from > >>> Altman and OpenAI and issued an excoriating statement. > >>> > >>> OpenAI, however, said Sky was never intended to resemble Johansson, and > >>> that the company had hired a voice actor who recorded the part before any > >>> outreach to Johansson. People close to Altman say he wanted Johansson > >>> to be involved in the voice project, potentially as an additional voice > >>> or to promote the product. > >>> > >>> OpenAI paused use of the Sky voice on Sunday after receiving legal > >>> letters from Johansson's team of representatives. Altman said Monday > >>> evening in a statement that he apologized for failing to communicate > >>> better. > >>> > >>> Altman has been the most visible face of the AI movement since OpenAI > >>> launched ChatGPT in late 2022 and ignited a global frenzy over AI > >>> technology. He and the company face numerous challenges, including a > >>> slew of copyright lawsuits and mounting pressure to advance its GPT-4 > >>> technology. It's also trying to move past its leadership crisis from > >>> last November, when OpenAI's then-board of directors fired Altman for > >>> failing to be "consistently candid". He was quickly reinstated as CEO. > >>> > >>> For performers like Johansson and IP owners, it is hard to prove whether > >>> their likeness or content has been misused. Regulations governing the > >>> systems are scant. > >>> > >>> Altman in a speech last year said he and other OpenAI executives were > >>> inspired by the 2013 film HER, in which a man falls in love with his AI > >>> assistant, voiced by Johansson. The company aimed to develop an > >>> assistant like Apple's Siri or Microsoft's Cortana that users could > >>> talk to. > >>> > >>> Last May, the company sent out a casting call looking for male, female, > >>> and nonbinary voices in the 25 to 45 age range. It wanted voices that > >>> were warm, engaging and charismatic, internal documents reviewed by The > >>> Wall Street Journal show. "Someone you instantly trust and feel a > >>> kinship with. Nothing 'put on'." > >>> > >>> It whittled down a list of 400 applicants and flew actors to San > >>> Francisco last June and July for recording sessions. The actors were > >>> asked to sign nondisclosure agreements and refrain from providing voice > >>> recordings to OpenAI's competitors for three years after the product > >>> launch, the documents show. OpenAI says that the actress who played > >>> Sky was recording in the studio last July. > >> > >> Which is a complete crock of shit. > >> Wrong again, counselor. > > > > Are you yet again under the impression that I wrote an article that I > > quoted from the legacy corporate media? > > > > I'm not 'wrong again', Shit Shoes. I didn't say anything here to be wrong > > about. All I did was post an interesting article about show business in a > > TV newsgroup. > You posted Altman's lies. No, MSN/MSNBC/NBC put his comments in their article. I merely posted the article. > Why didn't you post Altman calling his new AI voice: "Her"? Because that wasn't in MSN/MSNBC/NBC's article. Are you finally coming around to the fact that the corporate legacy media can't be trusted? Well, to quote a famous Christmas movie, "Welcome to the party, pal."