Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: InstaCart Delivery Guy Shoots and Kills One of Angie Harmon's Dogs Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 18:09:01 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 156 Message-ID: References: <1437748060.733782420.649436.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17c2d83f594a4d02$139916$3265$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com> <17c30bdfdd7e92cd$124383$1768716$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com> <17c31d4bca8886e3$33222$111488$4ed50460@news.newsdemon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 01:08:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="46a0498f5ce23a807be5076039638b7d"; logging-data="1039306"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/tO4tYa2aLybXQM1iLCjEV" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:iQwJKOgtjJUlG8LgbBZunzyekBA= In-Reply-To: <17c31d4bca8886e3$33222$111488$4ed50460@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 7576 On 4/4/2024 8:28 AM, moviePig wrote: > On 4/4/2024 6:08 AM, trotsky wrote: >> On 4/3/24 1:22 PM, moviePig wrote: >>> On 4/3/2024 5:59 AM, FPP wrote: >>>> On 4/3/24 4:38 AM, shawn wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 23:45:56 -0700, anim8rfsk >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13261563/Angie-Harmon-reveals-Instacart-driver-shot-KILLED-dogs.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The actress Angie Harmon shared the devastating news that one of >>>>>>> her family's >>>>>> dogs was shot and killed by an InstaCart delivery person over the >>>>>> Easter >>>>>> weekend. The 51-year-old former LAW & ORDER star revealed on >>>>>> Instagram on >>>>>> Monday that her dog Oliver had been killed by the delivery person >>>>>> after he >>>>>> dropped off groceries to their home in Charlotte, North Carolina. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for InstaCart >>>>>>> shot & killed >>>>>> our precious Oliver," she wrote, alongside several sweet photos of >>>>>> the >>>>>> deceased pet. "He got out of his car, delivered the food & THEN >>>>>> shot our >>>>>> dog. >>>>>> Our Ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & then >>>>>> knew he >>>>>> wasn’t >>>>>> being recorded. The police let him go because he claimed >>>>>> self-defense. He >>>>>> did >>>>>> not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. He was >>>>>> shopping >>>>>> under a woman's identity named Merle. He shot our dog with my >>>>>> daughters and >>>>>> myself at home and just kept saying, "Yeah, I shot your dog. Yeah, >>>>>> I did." >>>>>> We >>>>>> are completely traumatized and beyond devastated at the loss of >>>>>> our beloved >>>>>> boy and family member." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> InstaCart responded to Harmon's claims with a statement to >>>>>>> DailyMail.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this >>>>>>> incident. We have no >>>>>> tolerance for violence of any kind and the shopper account was >>>>>> immediately >>>>>> suspended from our platform," it said. "We have been in direct >>>>>> contact with >>>>>> the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their >>>>>> investigation." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In an update from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department to >>>>>>> TMZ, law >>>>>> enforcement officials confirmed that the InstaCart driver claimed >>>>>> he shot >>>>>> the >>>>>> dog in self-defense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The investigation revealed that a delivery driver arrived at the >>>>>>> residence to >>>>>> deliver consumable goods. The driver told officers that a dog >>>>>> attacked him >>>>>> while he was at the residence and that he defended himself by >>>>>> firing a >>>>>> single >>>>>> gunshot, striking and mortally wounding the dog. Another dog was >>>>>> present at >>>>>> the residence but did not attack." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They added that the department's Animal Control division was also >>>>>>> involved in >>>>>> the response to the shooting but the department confirmed that no >>>>>> charges >>>>>> had >>>>>> been filed against the driver at this time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The police department added that it was not seeking out any other >>>>>>> individuals >>>>>> in response to the shooting. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve looked at the postings online and have some questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ring doorbells are rechargeable? You can just stick them up to the >>>>>> front of >>>>>> the house and move them in and out? How come they don’t get stolen >>>>>> all the >>>>>> time? >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, that has to be the case because most of them (all that I see >>>>> around here) are just stuck to the door so there's no power >>>>> connection. I haven't checked but assumed that the ring is locked to >>>>> the case until you use the app to unlock the ring device. >>>>> >>>>>> The groceries delivered Were a very small package left at the >>>>>> front door. I >>>>>> thought from the story presented he/she/it must’ve come inside to >>>>>> see that >>>>>> her ring doorbell was recharging. So I’m not sure how he/she/it knew. >>>>> >>>>> I assume the actual device was missing (since it was inside >>>>> recharging) so the easier way to put it is that the driver saw that >>>>> there was no camera. He may not even have known they had a Ring device >>>>> unless he delivered items there before. >>>>> >>>>>> Ring is currently heavily advertising that every big moment in >>>>>> your life >>>>>> happens on your front porch and is captured by your ring doorbell >>>>>> video >>>>>> which is just galactically stupid but will they continue this >>>>>> campaign? >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder what Instacart and the local police policy is on Instacart, >>>>>> drivers carrying weapons, potentially concealed? >>>>> >>>>> My guess is just the what ever the local laws are. >>>>> >>>>>> They won’t do anything to he/she/it. PETA goes to peoples homes >>>>>> and steals >>>>>> their animals and kills them because they don’t think animals >>>>>> should be >>>>>> pets and it’s just a small fine. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, without a video of what the guy did I don't expect anything to >>>>> happen to him. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You're kidding, right?  Without him having proof of self defense, >>>> he's going to get his ass sued off. >>>> >>>> As far as criminal charges go, that'll depend on what, if anything, >>>> he's charged with - as well as his past record, if he has one. >>> >>> I don't want to believe there are people who'd shoot a dog with zero >>> provocation, and I'm guessing a jury might not want to either. >> >> You're confused.  Try "not enough provocation."  A dog growling isn't >> reason to execute it. > > "Not enough" is much more subjective than "zero". > I have the feeling the dog was walking up to the InstaCart person looking for a scritch or petting. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.