Path: Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 22:49:35 +0000 From: BTR1701 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Inconvenient lefties References: User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:57:28 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 53 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-YfvF4yJK3q6FWNZsQ/IhjwYBblxqBoPin+YbodBvHGy8HQgjYLADuIcsgebmThzIPSkdbQ+m5uK36SQ!yyGkwC341K0SATrajaT6Vu6+V5zrLnDaT9hc1TYn9uWSX/wOebv6bSlc53ad3d2hkIhgrE/Ch/Kn!pNo= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3395 In article , "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > BTR1701 wrote: > >Adam H. Kerman wrote: > > >>Last Friday, a Chicago alderman (there are cockroaches with higher social > >>standing) gave a speech at a rally outside city hall condemning Biden > >>and support for Israel in the war against Hamas. A veteran had burned a > >>special American flag > > >Why is it that burning the American flag is protected speech, but if you > >burn an Alphabet Mafia rainbow flag, you can get arrested for a hate > >crime? > > You mean a flag that does not belong to you, not your own flag. No, I mean any rainbow flag. If you go buy one yourself, then take it to an anti-troon protest and burn it, it's a hate crime. But if you buy an American flag and take it to an Antifa riot and burn it, protected speech. > In any event, a person of a specific nationality (or perception of > a specific nationality) is in a protected class in some hate crime > enhancements. Let's say the flag being burnt was flown on a flagpole > outside an individual's house who also had a Stand With Israel lawn > sign. The protestor objected to Biden's pro-Israel stance in the war > against Hamas. If the victim's flag is burned as part of a campaign of > harrassment, then yes, it can be argued that he's been subject to a hate > crime because he refuses to question his own government's foreign > relations. > > I can see a hate crime enhancement for that although it might be > difficult to prove unless the criminal said something along the lines > that he denounces the victim for not rejecting his country. > > I disagree with you. > > >>part of the protest, and there were signs protesting that the Democratic > >>National Convention (to nominate the president) is being held in Chicago. > > >>The alderman gave his speech in front of the burnt flag. There's plenty > >>of video showing the flag lying on the pavement next to the alderman. > > >>When the videos were shown and other aldermen expressed horror, he > >>started denying that he'd given the speech in front of the flag 'cuz > >>gaslighting always works. > > >They literally deny reality right in front of you and expect you to > >believe it. > > Voters in my state do believe!