Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Criticism of Anti-Defamation League Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:13:05 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <7bkn2j9njfkb096k4fmf2o3cfr7krim2b6@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:13:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f646712ec35760dfbb431f674ec566f5"; logging-data="4014929"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18I6m+qLEm9uydIApdrcEZMhv43x6TYLT8=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:kzLIaaOlUBh39E0DLpuONJAjldE= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Bytes: 3463 shawn wrote: >Fri, 26 Apr 2024 15:21:24 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman : >>In compiling reports that demonstrate that anti-Semitism has been >>increasing throughout American society, Anti-Defamation League changed >>its methodology for statistical reporting. Expressions of support for >>Hamas have been counted in hate crime data as anti-Semitism since >>October 7, 2023. >Do they at least break out the individual types of acts so you can see >how many reports of hateful speech are included. I haven't read them. >>I don't follow these reports and I don't know how hateful speech is >>being linked to vandalism, arson, violence, or even terrorism and if >>they are counting speech incidents alone without a criminal act. >>Note to moviePig: Speech without the criminal acts I named or without a >>threat is... speech. The 14th and 1/2 Amendment be damned. >No,no. Any speech that I don't like is clearly a criminal act. It >shows the potential for a threat and therefore must be treated as a >threat. Free speech is dead. Unless it is by me or those I approve of. >>ADL has been criticized by extremism researchers for changing their >>methodoly. Nevertheless, the researcher interviewed had also found, >>using older methods, that anti-Semitism increased. ADL wasn't wrong. >Of course it has increased. That said you shouldn't murky the waters >by changing the methodology in such an obvious ploy to increase the >reported numbers of anti-Semitism. People who see that ploy will >discount everything they say. To defend ADL, who would have thought of measuring pro-Hamas speech in America before October 7? >>Let's think about this for a moment. Is there a way to support Hamas in >>a way that isn't an expression of hatred, that isn't supporting >>terrorism, that isn't supporting their extreme religious views that led >>them to create a situation in which 10s of thousands of their own people >>would get slaughtered by the enemy? >>If it weren't Hamas doing it, the whold rest of the world would have >>condemned the use of human shields as a war crime. Instead, the killing >>of human shields as collateral damage in military operations has been >>labeled as Jews committing war crimes and genocide. >>Unpacking the truth of antisemitism on college campuses >>April 25, 20245:57 PM ET >>Heard on All Things Considered >>https://www.npr.org/2024/04/25/1247253244/unpacking-the-truth-of-antisemitism-on-college-campuses >>By Odette Yousef, Lisa Hagen >>NPR