Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: In Defense of Fred Freiberger Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 23:14:53 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <20240506231453.0000748b@example.com> References: <1162120697.736723329.472692.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <20240506204650.000031c9@example.com> <2126053556.736736988.954402.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Tue, 07 May 2024 05:14:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="164846e99739a932c201b8d846103107"; logging-data="2475137"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19/9G3JANN7+8eUojab74a8SPLl2anVvwg=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:H1tvtXOT3G5Zq5WiFbKhSF+o8uo= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240506-4, 5/6/2024), Outbound message X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.41; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 3732 On Tue, 07 May 2024 01:37:25 +0000 BTR1701 wrote: > On May 6, 2024 at 6:27:29 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" > wrote: >=20 > > Rhino wrote: =20 > >> On Mon, 6 May 2024 14:46:02 -0700 > >> anim8rfsk wrote: > >> =20 > >>> Ubiquitous wrote: =20 > >>>> Last week I created a video claiming that Fred Freiberger was > >>>> responsible for the demise of such shows as "Star Trek", "Space > >>>> 1999", "The Six Million Dollar Man" and others, but was he? > >>>> We'll re-examine that today! > >>>> =20 > >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOqn_DJdZQGw =20 > >>> =20 > >>> Man was an incompetent menace. > >>> =20 > >> I recently saw a quote from Shatner where he defended Freiberger, > >> saying he did the best he could with a severely reduced budget.=20 > >> =20 > >> Maybe Shatner wrote the IMDB article on Freiberger which says: > >> =20 > >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >> Because of a planned European vacation, he then spurned an offer > >> by Gene Roddenberry to produce Star Trek (1966) from the onset. =20 > >=20 > > I=E2=80=99ve never heard that before and I=E2=80=99d go far enough as t= o call it a > > blatant lie > >=20 > > However, =20 > >> in 1968, he took up the option to produce the show in its final > >> season. By then, severe budgetary cuts (which resulted in many > >> 'bottle show' episodes and lower quality scripts), the exodus of > >> top creative talent and the take-over of Desilu by Paramount =20 > >=20 > > I=E2=80=99ll also call that a blatant lie. While it happened, it had > > happened at the first season. =20 >=20 > And weren't *all* the episodes of TOS "bottle show" episodes? I don't > remember there being any kind of multiple episode or season-long > story arcs. >=20 >=20 There *was* one two-parter early in the first season, The Menagerie - made up largely of scenes from the 1st pilot - which they made because they were behind schedule and had to get caught up.=20 Season-long arcs weren't done by *anyone* in those days. That didn't begin until the early 80s with St. Elsewhere and Hill Street Blues (unless I've forgotten an earlier example).=20 --=20 Rhino