Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Do you condemn Hamas? Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2024 09:53:35 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 130 Message-ID: References: <6663837f$0$2363147$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <7b176jdajq3co9nosj8qnie8rupdrsfoav@4ax.com> <9sg76jls1tsvdbd9v0v82463kj6m55i1a9@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 11:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6d5549604768fdd1ab6b3d3fe424fed3"; logging-data="2695357"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ZuF3SUCCGQCCKjIjtVdAPH4rY306vtPA=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ckf/WWMdHCn0yGwd6HUfDvNLVY0= Bytes: 6279 On Fri, 07 Jun 2024 19:37:04 -0700, john larkin wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 22:11:58 -0400, "Edward Rawde" > wrote: > >>"john larkin" wrote in message >>news:fle76jld4pj0rj412uv49jjfe4grpupa44@4ax.com... >>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 21:18:20 -0400, "Edward Rawde" >>> wrote: >>> >>>>"john larkin" wrote in message >>>>news:dq976jlhrp1puom0ha9ogpte8aniroj94i@4ax.com... >>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:25:36 -0400, "Edward Rawde" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"john larkin" wrote in message >>>>>>news:7b176jdajq3co9nosj8qnie8rupdrsfoav@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 18:02:38 -0400, bitrex >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On 6/7/2024 5:26 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Jeroen Belleman" wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:v3vtf6$2824r$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 22:35, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:53:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because >>>>>>>>>>>>> they are heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed >>>>>>>>>>>>> martyrs. So for Hamas, killing is always win-win. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor >>>>>>>>>>>> hell. >>>>>>>>>>>> Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious >>>>>>>>>>>> brainwashing. There is no afterlife. There is only this life. >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't waste it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Until you understand the origin of the universe and the nature >>>>>>>>>>> of consciousness, you can't know. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Religion is human's reason to have morality. Morality leads to >>>>>>>>>>> enlightment and a kind, just, productive society. Where else >>>>>>>>>>> would morality and justice come from? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One interpretation of religion is our collective feelings >>>>>>>>>>> about proper behavior to others. Obviously, there are >>>>>>>>>>> different religions with, possibly, genetic components. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In my personal experience, religious people are nicer than >>>>>>>>>>> atheists. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Better cooks too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oh! That's nonsense. Religion is a human invention, much like >>>>>>>>>> father Christmas and the tooth fairy. The difference is that >>>>>>>>>> many people never get over it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Religion has no right to claim to be the source of morality! >>>>>>>>>> Morality stems from a desire to cooperate to our mutual >>>>>>>>>> benefit. >>>>>>>>>> Religion never even comes into it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I see no clear tendency of religious people to be nicer. I've >>>>>>>>>> seen quite a few who were real bastards. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's pretty much my experience too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Come to New England you'll meet a different cut of conservative, >>>>>>>>who has no need for God or the Bible to explain why they think >>>>>>>>women shouldn't vote or homosexuals should be hung. "I just don't >>>>>>>>like the fuckers." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have lots of relatives in Mass and have spent many months of my >>>>>>> life in NYC and Vermont >>>>>> >>>>>>Would I be correct in thinking that you've never been outside the >>>>>>USA except perhaps for a short vacation? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have spend a few months in France and a month working in Moscow. >>>>> Some weeks working in England, in Oxford, and a few weeks vacatining >>>>> in Ireland. Some time in Hamamatsu. >>>>> >>>>> I guess Alaska and Hawaii don't count. >>>>> >>>>> I have never encountered the sort of nastiness that other people >>>>> seem to have. Most people are friendly and decent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Well your response to my reference to https://russell-j.com/0464NP.HTM >>>>was pretty nasty in my view. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> BR is dead, so I didn't offend him. >> >>I don't think he would have been offended even if he were still alive. >>https://www.google.com/search? q=bertrand+russell+message+to+future+generations >> >> >>> He sounded smug and nasty to me. >> >>But did you take a moment to take in anything he said? Or did you just >>let your emotional hormones get the better of your neurones like the >>rest of us are capable of doing at times? >> >> >>> >> > I read the essay, and some others of his. > > He did have a good attitude towards women. So did this fellow: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/feb/07/david-carrick-jailed-life- rapes-met-police-officer ;-)