Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.cmpublishers.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: An actual circuit Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 23:39:02 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 59 Message-ID: References: <1cv15jdls60tjfcndqe9qm7bgjdtchv9u9@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 03:39:03 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="85517"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:4b7O1lEH5uvCIQsysFxmuiUqCbc= sha256:rJADMz7HV8F2NissoCRuWYhdVzAbhkv5T5tWn6VlHfg= sha1:e31QcHy41wrszAWb8PdIQtpWtQ8= sha256:JnwTwEikSSTbteOlnKRl3l1kx56eRFXJA6aAK6Bk9x4= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Bytes: 3516 "john larkin" wrote in message news:obm25jtajqj96tjutjmo4vhlvglje74444@4ax.com... > On Fri, 24 May 2024 22:56:02 -0400, "Edward Rawde" > wrote: > >>"Mike Monett VE3BTI" wrote in message >>news:XnsB17CDFBC01F77idtokenpost@135.181.20.170... >>> Phil Hobbs wrote: >>> >>>>> Insect cruelty. Plus you have to count their tiny feets backwards. >>>> >>>> The only good bugs is dead bugs. ;) >>>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Phil Hobbs >>> >>> The major flaw with dead bugs is you lose the identification of the ic. >>> >>> Six months later, you will have no idea what the circuit is, where the >>> important signals are, or how the circuit works. >>> >>> Many high frequency ic's have a ground tab that must be connected to >>> ground. This is not possible with dead bugs. >>> >>> Often not all of a prototype must be on a copperclad ground plane. >>> Perpheral supporting circuits can be placed on a prototype board, with a >>> section of ground plane mounted on the proto board as needed. This makes >>> mounting test points and input and output signals much easier. >>> >>> Amazon has a large selection of suitable proto boards: >>> >>> https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=prototype+pcb+board >>> >> >>I used to like Speedwire, particularly if I wanted and 8-bit CPU and a >>bunch >>of 22V10s. >>But it's no surprise I can barely find any reference to it now. >> >>https://www.google.com/search?&q=speedwire+bicc-vero&tbm=isch >> >>https://www.edn.com/wp-content/uploads/contenteetimes-images-01mdunn-benchtalk-proto4.jpg >> >>> >>> -- >>> MRM >> > > It's cheap and easy now to make a few double-side or multilayer PCBs > for anything complex. True but you can reuse a speedwire board :) What PCB design system/software do you use? >