Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FPP Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Alec Baldwin getting away with murder Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 09:56:16 -0400 Organization: Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn. Lines: 85 Message-ID: References: <1797980814.731492324.194688.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17ba9b03ee0e9624$13863$3298354$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> Reply-To: fredp1571@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 13:56:16 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="866255e9d7f6f21dcf5228058326e7a5"; logging-data="3153709"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18LFUxBdM0sYbJXkpdMA0GY" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:eUVm9RZiR7m7FKyFYq56v/hD0OI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 5319 On 3/8/24 10:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article , FPP > wrote: > >> On 3/7/24 5:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article >>> <17ba9b03ee0e9624$13863$3298354$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com>, >>> moviePig wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/7/2024 4:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article , Alan Smithee >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 03/07/2024 01:42 PM, EGK wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:59:02 -0700, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/03/rust-movie-armorer-guilty-shooting-death-1 >>>>>>>> 23 >>>>>>>> 5847983/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Classic example of shit rolling downhill and our two-tiered justice >>>>>>> system. Baldwin is "loose" with weapons on the set and he fires the >>>>>>> fatal shot but because he hired a young and very inexperienced armorer, >>>>>>> she ends up being the perfect scapegoat. >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you watch the trial yesterday? She was quoted as saying she could >>>>>> not be responsible for everyone on the set. Even tho it is her job to be >>>>>> responsible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Baldwin should be held accountable, but he will likely walk. >>>>> >>>>> Once upon a time, I spent an afternoon on the CSI:HORATIO set as a >>>>> technical advisor (the episode dealt with counterfeit currency and they >>>>> took none of my advice regarding how what they were doing wasn't >>>>> accurate in any way), and in every scene with guns, as soon as they >>>>> yelled cut, the armorer zipped in and took everyone's pistols and put >>>>> them on a table over in the corner of the sound stage. He stood watch >>>>> over them until the resets were done and they were ready to go again, >>>>> then he handed them all back out again.** >>>>> >>>>> (I do not know if there was a separate sunglass wrangler for David >>>>> Caruso.) >>>>> >>>>> **The armorer guy went white as a sheet near the end of the day when it >>>>> came to his attention that I'd been sitting on set all afternoon with an >>>>> actual loaded handgun under my suit coat. >>>>> >>>>> Based on what I saw that day and how firearms are treated on set by a >>>>> responsible armorer, Baldwin should never have been playing around with >>>>> a gun outside of an actual filmed scene, and certainly shouldn't have >>>>> been pointing it at people. What possible reason could he have had for >>>>> pointing it at the director and the DP? >>>> >>>> Was he not rehearsing a scene that called for him to point the gun at >>>> the camera and then to "fire"? If he was, then I can buy that he did no >>>> worse than most movie actors would've. >>> >>> Another thing the CSI folks had were dummy guns for such rehearsals. Big >>> hunks of brightly-colored plastic that are shaped like handguns. >>> >>> E.g.: >>> >>> https://www.securityprousa.com/collections/training-guns >>> >>> They used those for rehearsals and only brought out the real guns for an >>> actual take. Even in the actual take, only the people whose guns needed >>> to cycle for realism were given real firearms. Everyone else had black >>> painted gun replicas that were nothing but solid pieces of plastic. They >>> looked real on camera but had no ability to shoot anything. >>> >> Then go and try THAT case, because it has nothing to do with THIS one. > > It shows that compared to other productions in the same industry, this > movie was playing fast and loose with safety. > So prove that was Baldwin's fault. -- "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC Bible 25B.G. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0 Gracie, age 6. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0