Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 12:16:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's Battle With OpenAI Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <4AGdncoJueTB0cz7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: trotsky In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 147 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.hasname.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 17:16:32 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 7361 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17d3b68b437b7a48$20759$3113228$cad58068@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 7763 On 5/28/24 9:31 AM, FPP wrote: > On 5/26/24 2:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >> In article , FPP >> wrote: >> >>> On 5/25/24 11:35 AM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>> FPP wrote: >>>>> On 5/24/24 10:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>> >>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/ar-BB1mWLqa >>>>>> >>>>>> Scarlett Johansson's powerful Hollywood agent, Bryan Lourd, wanted >>>>>> answers when he made an urgent call to Sam Altman last week: What do >>>>>> you think you're doing? >>>>>> >>>>>> Altman's artificial intelligence powerhouse, OpenAI, had for months >>>>>> unsuccessfully courted Johansson, who memorably voiced an AI >>>>>> assistant >>>>>> in the 2013 film HER. Last September, Johansson turned down an offer >>>>>> to work with OpenAI and voice a new assistant feature. >>>>>> >>>>>> Altman didn't give up. In mid-May, he texted Lourd, co-chairman of >>>>>> Creative Artists Agency, asking if Johansson might reconsider-- he >>>>>> wanted to show the actress something he'd been working on, people >>>>>> familiar with the interaction said. The camps couldn't settle on a >>>>>> time to meet. Then on May 13, OpenAI showcased an updated AI system, >>>>>> equipped with new voice assistants for its Chat GPT tool, including a >>>>>> female named Sky. >>>>>> >>>>>> Johansson was surprised and angry. She and Lourd thought-- and others >>>>>> agreed-- that Sky's voice sounded "eerily similar" to the actress. >>>>>> Lourd and the actress spent the morning fielding calls and emails >>>>>> from >>>>>> friends and associates, some of whom worried that OpenAI had simply >>>>>> appropriated Johansson's voice without permission. >>>>>> >>>>>> When Lourd confronted Altman, however, the OpenAI chief executive was >>>>>> incredulous. Did they really think the voice sounded like Johansson? >>>>>> Was she mad? >>>>>> >>>>>> So began the most dramatic episode yet in the collision between >>>>>> Hollywood >>>>>> and the exploding world of artificial intelligence. >>>>>> >>>>>> The emergence of AI as a rapidly advancing and perhaps unstoppable >>>>>> force >>>>>> has sparked deep anxiety in creative industries that for decades have >>>>>> been governed by strict rules of how creators are compensated for >>>>>> their >>>>>> work. The reason is that the language models that power generative AI >>>>>> chat tools are typically made using text, images, music and videos >>>>>> hoovered up from across the internet. That can include material that >>>>>> is copyrighted, valuable and often paywalled-- like Scarlett >>>>>> Johansson's >>>>>> voice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Johansson-- who just three years ago waged a blistering and public >>>>>> legal >>>>>> campaign against Disney-- hired a legal team to demand answers from >>>>>> Altman and OpenAI and issued an excoriating statement. >>>>>> >>>>>> OpenAI, however, said Sky was never intended to resemble >>>>>> Johansson, and >>>>>> that the company had hired a voice actor who recorded the part >>>>>> before any >>>>>> outreach to Johansson. People close to Altman say he wanted Johansson >>>>>> to be involved in the voice project, potentially as an additional >>>>>> voice >>>>>> or to promote the product. >>>>>> >>>>>> OpenAI paused use of the Sky voice on Sunday after receiving legal >>>>>> letters from Johansson's team of representatives. Altman said Monday >>>>>> evening in a statement that he apologized for failing to communicate >>>>>> better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Altman has been the most visible face of the AI movement since OpenAI >>>>>> launched ChatGPT in late 2022 and ignited a global frenzy over AI >>>>>> technology. He and the company face numerous challenges, including a >>>>>> slew of copyright lawsuits and mounting pressure to advance its GPT-4 >>>>>> technology. It's also trying to move past its leadership crisis from >>>>>> last November, when OpenAI's then-board of directors fired Altman for >>>>>> failing to be "consistently candid". He was quickly reinstated as >>>>>> CEO. >>>>>> >>>>>> For performers like Johansson and IP owners, it is hard to prove >>>>>> whether >>>>>> their likeness or content has been misused. Regulations governing the >>>>>> systems are scant. >>>>>> >>>>>> Altman in a speech last year said he and other OpenAI executives were >>>>>> inspired by the 2013 film HER, in which a man falls in love with >>>>>> his AI >>>>>> assistant, voiced by Johansson. The company aimed to develop an >>>>>> assistant like Apple's Siri or Microsoft's Cortana that users could >>>>>> talk to. >>>>>> >>>>>> Last May, the company sent out a casting call looking for male, >>>>>> female, >>>>>> and nonbinary voices in the 25 to 45 age range. It wanted voices that >>>>>> were warm, engaging and charismatic, internal documents reviewed >>>>>> by The >>>>>> Wall Street Journal show. "Someone you instantly trust and feel a >>>>>> kinship with. Nothing 'put on'." >>>>>> >>>>>> It whittled down a list of 400 applicants and flew actors to San >>>>>> Francisco last June and July for recording sessions. The actors were >>>>>> asked to sign nondisclosure agreements and refrain from providing >>>>>> voice >>>>>> recordings to OpenAI's competitors for three years after the product >>>>>> launch, the documents show. OpenAI says that the actress who played >>>>>> Sky was recording in the studio last July. >>>>> >>>>> Which is a complete crock of shit. >>>>> Wrong again, counselor. >>>> >>>> Are you yet again under the impression that I wrote an article that I >>>> quoted from the legacy corporate media? >>>> >>>> I'm not 'wrong again', Shit Shoes. I didn't say anything here to be >>>> wrong >>>> about. All I did was post an interesting article about show business >>>> in a >>>> TV newsgroup. >> >>> You posted Altman's lies. >> >> No, MSN/MSNBC/NBC put his comments in their article. I merely posted the >> article. >> >>> Why didn't you post Altman calling his new AI voice: "Her"? >> >> Because that wasn't in MSN/MSNBC/NBC's article. Are you finally coming >> around to the fact that the corporate legacy media can't be trusted? >> >> Well, to quote a famous Christmas movie, "Welcome to the party, pal." >> > > You posted it.  I corrected it, and you're running for the hills. > > But points for using the Trump Defense. > "I didn't do it, he did it.  I only re-posted it." > > Like you're idol, you don't take responsibility for your actions. > Twat's version of said "Christmas movie" would be "Lie Hard."