Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: OT: Question for Anim Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 08:37:28 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <1293120391.731908048.058066.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <939903897.731918929.814384.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:37:28 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bf7d7bd1d16e4fee2dd35b342ddecd20"; logging-data="393206"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ceXtyzzO9OA2vbnYOoUEO" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:dz0kPZYBpOlpeRFtZ9XBI4GY/2A= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <939903897.731918929.814384.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Bytes: 4232 On 3/12/2024 12:02 AM, anim8rfsk wrote: > Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> On 3/11/2024 9:06 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>> Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>>> Anim, as someone who has worked in the TV/Film industry I'd like your >>>> serious opinion on something. Elsewhere I'm involved in a discussion >>>> where we are wondering how Apple can get away with the prices it charges >>>> and is there anything it actually does better than a high-end PC. >>>> Someone suggested video and audio (music) work. >>>> >>>> So my question is what would you use now for video and/or FX work? And >>>> why please? >>>> >>> >>> Well, I’ve been retired for a few years now and just doing consulting and >>> kibitzing so I really can’t speak to what I would use if I were going to >>> start over. >>> >>> But in my day, the people that actually did the work did it on Macs or >>> Linux and the people who thought they did the work, but were just in the >>> way used windows. >>> >>> There’s a school of thought that “cheaper is better“ regardless of anything >>> else. And those are the people that always wanted us to use windows. They >>> would buy a PC for $1000 and say see this is way better than your Mac that >>> cost 1500 but then they would have to go out and add a whole bunch of stuff >>> to it and end up out of pocket $2000 and still not have half the computer >>> the Apple guys did. >>> >>> Compare this thinking to beta versus VHS. There’s absolutely no doubt Beta >>> was better in every measurable capacity, but VHS was better at promotion >>> and underhanded pricing deals. So it won. >>> >> I thought it was because Betamax wouldn't allow their format to be used >> for porn. > > No. At the time, a good friend of mine was working at Fred rated and took > me through the store and showed me how all the various spiffs (perks and > kickbacks) worked which I found really interesting. For instance, if they > could get you to buy a knock off Walkman instead of a namebrand Sony > Walkman the salesman got $7.50 on a $50 sale. A pair of Panasonic D > batteries would get you $.50 all by themselves! > > Sony with the Japanese mindset had a really different incentive plan than > Americans are used to. They paid kickbacks on the beta units, but only once > a year at Christmas/New Year’s. Meanwhile the VHS units paid kickbacks at > the time of sale. So would you rather get 50 bucks now for convincing me to > buy a VHS or take your chance that you were still going to be at the store > at the end of the year and get a lot more money in one lump? > > So the salesmen are telling all the customers to get VHS based entirely on > the kickback, not the actual performance of the unit. Guess what sold > best? > Ah, that sounds familiar. I may have heard that before but forgot. I still think porn had something to do with it though. ;) -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.