Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FPP Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's Battle With OpenAI Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 09:24:04 -0400 Organization: Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn. Lines: 110 Message-ID: References: <4AGdncoJueTB0cz7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Reply-To: fredp1571@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 15:24:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2d7385a8a8d8abab23f5ff855412568d"; logging-data="3047533"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX183+BHFUfy+zN2CnDKL+z51" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:3yCqnz5Ux1ElgJUJiw+WevhiKIQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <4AGdncoJueTB0cz7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Bytes: 6664 On 5/24/24 10:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/ar-BB1mWLqa > > Scarlett Johansson's powerful Hollywood agent, Bryan Lourd, wanted answers > when he made an urgent call to Sam Altman last week: What do you think you're > doing? > > Altman's artificial intelligence powerhouse, OpenAI, had for months > unsuccessfully courted Johansson, who memorably voiced an AI assistant in the > 2013 film HER. Last September, Johansson turned down an offer to work with > OpenAI and voice a new assistant feature. > > Altman didn't give up. In mid-May, he texted Lourd, co-chairman of Creative > Artists Agency, asking if Johansson might reconsider-- he wanted to show the > actress something he'd been working on, people familiar with the interaction > said. The camps couldn't settle on a time to meet. Then on May 13, OpenAI > showcased an updated AI system, equipped with new voice assistants for its > Chat GPT tool, including a female named Sky. > > Johansson was surprised and angry. She and Lourd thought-- and others agreed-- > that Sky's voice sounded "eerily similar" to the actress. Lourd and the > actress spent the morning fielding calls and emails from friends and > associates, some of whom worried that OpenAI had simply appropriated > Johansson's voice without permission. > > When Lourd confronted Altman, however, the OpenAI chief executive was > incredulous. Did they really think the voice sounded like Johansson? Was she > mad? > > So began the most dramatic episode yet in the collision between Hollywood and > the exploding world of artificial intelligence. > > The emergence of AI as a rapidly advancing and perhaps unstoppable force has > sparked deep anxiety in creative industries that for decades have been > governed by strict rules of how creators are compensated for their work. The > reason is that the language models that power generative AI chat tools are > typically made using text, images, music and videos hoovered up from across > the internet. That can include material that is copyrighted, valuable and > often paywalled-- like Scarlett Johansson's voice. > > Johansson-- who just three years ago waged a blistering and public legal > campaign against Disney-- hired a legal team to demand answers from Altman and > OpenAI and issued an excoriating statement. > > OpenAI, however, said Sky was never intended to resemble Johansson, and that > the company had hired a voice actor who recorded the part before any outreach > to Johansson. People close to Altman say he wanted Johansson to be involved in > the voice project, potentially as an additional voice or to promote the > product. > > OpenAI paused use of the Sky voice on Sunday after receiving legal letters > from Johansson's team of representatives. Altman said Monday evening in a > statement that he apologized for failing to communicate better. > > Altman has been the most visible face of the AI movement since OpenAI launched > ChatGPT in late 2022 and ignited a global frenzy over AI technology. He and > the company face numerous challenges, including a slew of copyright lawsuits > and mounting pressure to advance its GPT-4 technology. It's also trying to > move past its leadership crisis from last November, when OpenAI's then-board > of directors fired Altman for failing to be "consistently candid". He was > quickly reinstated as CEO. > > For performers like Johansson and IP owners, it is hard to prove whether their > likeness or content has been misused. Regulations governing the systems are > scant. > > Altman in a speech last year said he and other OpenAI executives were inspired > by the 2013 film HER, in which a man falls in love with his AI assistant, > voiced by Johansson. The company aimed to develop an assistant like Apple's > Siri or Microsoft's Cortana that users could talk to. > > Last May, the company sent out a casting call looking for male, female, and > nonbinary voices in the 25 to 45 age range. It wanted voices that were warm, > engaging and charismatic, internal documents reviewed by The Wall Street > Journal show. "Someone you instantly trust and feel a kinship with. Nothing > 'put on'." > > It whittled down a list of 400 applicants and flew actors to San Francisco > last June and July for recording sessions. The actors were asked to sign > nondisclosure agreements and refrain from providing voice recordings to > OpenAI's competitors for three years after the product launch, the documents > show. OpenAI says that the actress who played Sky was recording in the studio > last July. Which is a complete crock of shit. Wrong again, counselor. That's what they're saying now, when they're faced with a lawsuit. Altman was trying to get SJ to agree as little as 48 hours before launch. There wouldn't have been time to craft a voice in that short a time unless they had it already done. And the final proof is Altman, himself. He announced the new AI over on Shitter with a single word. Would you care to guess what that word was, counselor? Here's a hint: It was "HER". Ring a bell? -- "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC Bible 25B.G. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0 Gracie, age 6. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0