Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:06:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Inconvenient lefties Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <17c0c13d249c8eca$72548$1768716$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com> <17c0ceb693286352$341$3121036$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com> <2MucnTxnR-96cJn7nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <17c0fc54e55b8534$37200$3384359$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Language: en-US From: moviePig In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 69 Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!panix!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 21:06:23 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 3607 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17c109af9b28102b$53484$2218499$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 4009 On 3/28/2024 2:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article > <17c0fc54e55b8534$37200$3384359$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com>, > moviePig wrote: > >> On 3/28/2024 12:11 AM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> On Mar 27, 2024 at 8:05:40 PM PDT, "moviePig" wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/27/2024 7:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article >>>>> <17c0c13d249c8eca$72548$1768716$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com>, >>>>> moviePig wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/27/2024 6:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>> In article , >>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>> Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Last Friday, a Chicago alderman (there are cockroaches with higher >>>>>>>>>> social standing) gave a speech at a rally outside city hall >>>>>>>>>> condemning Biden and support for Israel in the war against Hamas. >>>>>>>>>> A veteran had burned a special American flag >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why is it that burning the American flag is protected speech, but >>>>>>>>> if you burn an Alphabet Mafia rainbow flag, you can get arrested for >>>>>>>>> a hate crime? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You mean a flag that does not belong to you, not your own flag. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, I mean any rainbow flag. If you go buy one yourself, then take it >>>>>>> to an anti-troon protest and burn it, it's a hate crime. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But if you buy an American flag and take it to an Antifa riot and >>>>>>> burn it, protected speech. >>>>> >>>>>> The former action is one of hate, the latter is one of protest. >>>>> >>>>> What if the former is one of protest, too? >>>> >>>> That'd be for a judge to be convinced of >>> >>> Since when do I have to convince the government of the reasons for my >>> speech to keep from being jailed for it? >>> >>> "Congress shall make no law..." >>> >>>> ...who might ask, e.g., whether the defendant *knew* how the act would >>>> be perceived. >>> >>> My right to free speech isn't dependent on how someone else-- with an >>> agenda of their own-- might perceive my words. >> >> Are you disputing laws against hate speech or how they're enforced? > > Both. Hate speech is protected speech per the Supreme Court and any laws > to the contrary are unconstitutional. > > National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 > (1977) One cold night, a homeless man builds and lights a bonfire that destroys a family's manicured lawn. Elsewhere, a well-known redneck erects and burns a wooden cross, destroying the lawn of a black family. To your mind, are these infractions fully equivalent to each other?