Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:06:46 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 81 Message-ID: References: <1144903136.735583756.202196.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:06:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fe77adb71738f178d58fa0cc18f3108e"; logging-data="3327916"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19zzCo3y/SRN0BMGPld/bwLOwO55Uqdke0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:1NnSj6B7aUNgZ2dw+7mUPO78vW0= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 5067 On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote: > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 wrote: > >> On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" >> wrote: >> >>> On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said: >>> >>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>> >>>>> For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>>>> >>>> >>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12 >>>> >>>>> >>>> https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q >>>> >>>> "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >>> >>> They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say >>> Free Palestine...say it just once"? >>> >>> She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from >>> her own hood. >> >> What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their >> target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec >> Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine". >> >> Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a >> normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him >> say it? > > I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his > just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine > but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot > phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can > use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free > Palestine!" > >> Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you >> have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if >> he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he >> believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a >> phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does >> that accomplish? What's the point? > > The clicks are all that matters. > >> They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into >> restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say >> "black lives matter". > > My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following > would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose > their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get > the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person. > >> Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It >> seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must* >> say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not. >> >> Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost >> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you. >> If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over >> you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've >> scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence >> of the power they wield. > > Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them > feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and > their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the > war. I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists". Regardless, I think the idea is that you'll be filmed either "cowering and caving to the truth" or "unable even to utter the words".