Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us2.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=NUfAmEdmbR>\JlCGmSN^@3U5[F2hIijD?7J470dMQQ7;J4R`5ADBYn2Mo;g06So@_7LOn1W<620K5[LQU;Q]EH@6Uh:ZAVm]2i41NI1l8fb?f>XlnNGcjcaF4 X-Complaints-To: support@frugalusenet.com Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 12:45:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Challenger Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design References: <5a5a6jtfh1je18lr297jrh10oihptl2tgo@4ax.com> <9dhb6j5fbjjin8gp4quf31nqaop0grjni2@4ax.com> <66672656$0$7078$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: bitrex In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 27 Message-ID: <66687f34$4$3738373$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1718124340 reader.netnews.com 3738373 127.0.0.1:38497 Bytes: 2322 On 6/11/2024 10:58 AM, Martin Brown wrote: > ISTR at least one Morton Thiokol engineer was begging them not to launch > with it so cold but was over ruled by more senior people in the end. > > Rocket launches and landings are intrinsically dangerous. On this I am > inclined to agree with JL - unless and until we find something that our > robotic and AI kit cannot do we shouldn't be sending people into space. > > It was the *only* way to explore the moon back in 1969 but not any more... > The shuttle was a dual-use vehicle, it could've made a formidable weapon in a pinch. The Soviets thought so, at least. The large crossrange from the delta wings made once-around space bomber missions north from Vandenburg feasible, though IIRC they never launched from there. The DOD didn't "force" the delta wings, exactly, crossrange was a desire of theirs that NASA eventually came around to as beneficial in general, it made another abort mode possible and simplified design calculations/simulations to be tractable with the tech available at the time. But it's likely if they couldn't have come to a path of convergent evolution then the project wouldn't have gone forward at all.