Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Phil Hobbs Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Quantum mystics Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 19:04:32 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2024 21:04:33 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="07898ba2b05eeafb4d69af20d9ecedff"; logging-data="3918747"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+gGPqbaJt0xD/i5qRXD1TW" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ay3tDUP4psmpiHN6Cq3l0k75+j0= sha1:IEnlHAcqJj1arWQTwGMjA2pN+L0= Bytes: 2990 Jeroen Belleman wrote: > I just watched a talk by Anton Zeilinger, professor of physics > at the university of Vienna, and 2022 Nobel laureate, about > quantum effects and entanglement. > > I feel a rant bubbling up! > > The guy is a mystic, a fraud! He pretended to demonstrate that > light consists of particles by showing a little box that starts > clicking, like a Geiger counter, when exposed to light. Even if > the little box really did detect light, that means nothing! Light > *detection* is quantized, yes, but that does not imply that light > itself is so too. > > He attempted to convince the public that entanglement means that > the results of measurements made at two remote places come out > identically, and without any time delay. That's just not true, > but he didn't even give a hint of how this really works. He did > not mention that you have to make *correlated* measurements to > detect entanglement. For that, you need to communicate *what* > measurement is to be made at each location, and that implies > that you either prescribe the exact measurement in advance or > select a subset of the results after the fact. Either way, this > skews the data. > > He's in it for the money and the fame. Grrr. And he's one of > many, too. > > Jeroen Belleman > One of many over the years, starting with Bohr. Among the others are David Bohm, Fritjof Capra, and Brian Josephson. They’re distinguished from the mechanistic materialist majority merely by being wrong in the opposite direction. Almost all physicists make horrible philosophers, some worse than others. It’s an occupational hazard. When Tommy’s mum doesn’t make him clean up his own room because he’s so smart, Tommy needs an unusually level head to avoid becoming a conceited ass. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics