Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: OT? Dairy flu Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 07:28:41 -0400 Organization: What are you looking for? Lines: 50 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="27510"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 59869229870; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 07:28:33 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3442022986E for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 07:28:31 -0400 (EDT) id 4490D7D11E; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE4C7D009 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:28:44 +0000 (UTC) by nntpmail01.iad.omicronmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53D32E1545 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:28:43 +0000 (UTC) id 0BF81228023B; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:28:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Path: fx17.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail X-Original-Complaints-To: abuse(at)newshosting.com X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:28:42 UTC Bytes: 4558 On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:23:28 -0500, RonO wrote: >https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-dairy-industry-must-act-f= aster-to-keep-h5n1-bird-flu-from-starting-a/ > >Scientific American has an opinion piece stating what I have been going=20 >on about. For some stupid reason the USDA and CDC decided to rely on=20 >"self reporting" instead of going in and testing the herds and states=20 >that likely had infected herds. It has just allowed the virus to spread= =20 >to more dairy herds, and they have no idea of the extent of the=20 >infection because the CDC chose to "monitor" only a few herds in two = states. > >It has been sad and the opinion piece notes that the poultry industry=20 >has suffered because of it. When the price of poultry products start=20 >going up it is the USDA's and CDC's fault for not acting as they should=20 >have acted. You can't keep the avian flu off a poultry farm if changing= =20 >clothing and even showering in, as is required at some commercial=20 >breeding facilities, when the worker is infected and shedding live=20 >virus. For a poultry farm the infected flock is depopulated (killed=20 >off) and poultry within a mile radius of the infected flock are also=20 >disposed of. Several 2 million bird layer flocks have had to be=20 >depopulated in several states, and they were infected by the dairy=20 >cattle with a likely human intermediate. > >They knew from day one that dairy workers were likely taking the virus=20 >to other farms and infecting other herds, and poultry flocks, but they=20 >only "recommended" that dairy workers and their contacts not go to other= =20 >farms if they have come into contact with infected cattle. The kicker=20 >is that they refused to identify all the infected herds so most of the=20 >dairy workers in contact with infected cattle were not under the=20 >"recommendation". It has been sad and should never have unfolded as it = has. > >The more dairy herds that they allow to be infected, the more humans=20 >will be infected. > >Ron Okimoto I wonder if the current policies you mention above aren't consequences of a lack of funding and a lack of political support, due to conspiracies fallout from the Covid pandemic. -- To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge