Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.killfile.org!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Athel Cornish-Bowden Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Modeling the origins of life: New evidence for an 'RNA World' Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 11:13:46 +0100 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 56 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: <86v85s8tcm.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="36899"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 To: talk-origins@moderators.individual.net Cancel-Lock: sha1:+7WroT9xMSq0lddM03Q8Ktl8L/A= sha256:cVlnEmu9xTO6Mk5180ZXHJCePCYbmfqupvDNmr1n0zA= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 4D14322976C; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 06:10:36 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A552229758 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 06:10:34 -0400 (EDT) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.97) for talk-origins@moderators.individual.net with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1rjz92-00000003FBc-1CXv; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 11:14:04 +0100 by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.97) for talk-origins@moderators.individual.net with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1rjz8l-00000003rGJ-3qCP; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 11:13:47 +0100 by relay1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.97) for talk-origins@moderators.individual.net with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1rjz8l-00000002uCv-3aCJ; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 11:13:47 +0100 for talk-origins@moderators.individual.net with local-bsmtp (envelope-from ) id 1rjz8k-00000000w0g-2qNv; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 11:13:46 +0100 X-Path: individual.net!not-for-mail X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net M9+23kpOcQjO/P79scb50wOfQ8Yj7YcVyeSZ3Vr+t309CVW2cP X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO Bytes: 4420 On 2024-03-11 19:48:01 +0000, JTEM said: > Richmond wrote: > >> Darwin didn't know about genes > > Darwin was exposed to Mendel's work --THE Mendel, the > guy who worked out inheritance -- and he was exposed > to it BEFORE he completed his "Pangenesis" vomit. > >> but then his book was published before >> Mendel > > Again, "Pangenesis." > > Mendel worked it all out, Darwin was exposed to it AND > THEN Darwin came out with the "Pangenesis" bullshit. > >> As for rejecting >> evolution, well the last line in 'The Origin of Species' is: > > Omg. I'll repeat it: > > Stalin. Mao. I don't know about Mao, but Stalin had no problem with evolution. In 1959 (100 years after The Origin; 150 years after Darwin's birth) I was at the same school as Darwin, many years after him. The Academy of Sciences of the USSR sent the school a commemorative medal. (Don't bother to tell me that Stalin had died by then: I know.) Interest in Darwinism was at low ebb in England in 1959, and the anniversaries passed almost unnoticed. > They banned evolution. They saw is as Capitalist > propaganda -- justification for everything from racism into > classism and onto economic exploitation. So they banned > evolution. And what they put in it's place was Darwin's ideas, > what Darwin believed it. Insofar as there is any sense at all in what you say, you're probably confusing Darwin with Mendel. > > Yes, you're right, Darwin was a raging idiot who had no clue > what he meant, much less what he was talking about. That was > already established. -- athel cb : Biochemical Evolution, Garland Science, 2016