Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jan Panteltje Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: power shortages Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 16:01:56 GMT Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 16:01:56 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1164288"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (Linux-5.15.32-v7l+) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SKWm5ylTrZfnn83o5l7meA5betA= X-Newsreader-location: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (c) 'LIGHTSPEED' off line news reader for the Linux platform NewsFleX homepage: http://www.panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/ and ftp download ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/news/readers/ X-User-ID: eJwNysERAEEEBMCUzmKGcBYl/xBuq7/tCkHT4DDfp2xEcfKACIv+OlbJrBeXrNirWgtGYG6dSUzr1E1A2n8yhxUn Bytes: 3489 Lines: 49 On a sunny day (Fri, 08 Mar 2024 07:09:39 -0800) it happened John Larkin wrote in : >On Fri, 08 Mar 2024 13:15:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje >wrote: > >>On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:22:29 +0100) it happened Jeroen Belleman >> wrote in : >> >>>On 3/8/24 07:40, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> On a sunny day (Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:13:56 -0800) it happened John Larkin >>>> wrote in : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amid-explosive-demand-america-is-running-out-of-power/ar-BB1jtM69 >>>>> >>>>> Increasing demand and declining reliable supply could put people in >>>>> the dark. >>>> >>>> Yesterday I was reading Netherlands gov has decided to build 4 new nuclear power plants. >>>> They still have to find locations for 3, what if next doors?? ?? >>> >>>These are planned to be the --now old-fashioned-- Westinghouse >>>design? Big installations that need ten years to build? >>> >>>I wonder if it wouldn't be better to start an industry of >>>small modular reactors. Tens of megawatts rather than hundreds, >>>Something that could fit on a barge, or a train, transported >>>where it's needed, and up and running in months rather than >>>years. >> >>Yes, Russia has a ship with a nuclear power plant that powers some city somewhere, >>no risk of flooding then :-) >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_floating_nuclear_power_station >>OTOH ever more power is needed, so a big nuclear power plant makes sense. > >Why not lots of smaller ones? They could be phased in incrementally, >quickly, where and when needed. > >The politics are good. Do you want electricity? Find us a few acres >for an SMR. The more the harder security is. Some idiots a few days ago did set fire to a HV mast in Germany to prevent Tesla from expanding there. It also cut power to some other large company and caused shortages. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/business/tesla-germany-factory-fire.html It would be cool if they got small fusion reactors working. One for in each car?