Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: British (european?) kitchen counter electric outlets Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 10:54:32 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 14:54:33 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="9209"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:n1Wtq7gfbHkdMOPkGSDgWuoT238= sha256:6qinkKtBEBMtmsdd9hPRmTwoSeDkXQQX3qeTR8KLDM8= sha1:Olg/vzg+nYeOEH75z8jEtsffly4= sha256:Osg3/NF9h43svXY+x80JUxZQPMpJhbtEjJkqEUumFro= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Priority: 3 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Bytes: 3107 "john larkin" wrote in message news:qfog6jlbitiaa0e72tldls0jhkd5f4q1cr@4ax.com... > On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 07:30:07 -0700, Don Y > wrote: > >>On 6/11/2024 3:50 AM, Martin Brown wrote: >>> On 09/06/2024 02:29, Grant Taylor wrote: >>>> On 6/8/24 19:13, john larkin wrote: >>>>> The British plugs and outlets are enormous too. >>>> >>>> I like the idea of a fuse in the plug end of the cord. >>>> >>>> I'm only aware of that for Christmas lights in the U.S.A. >>>> >>>> The Christmas lights show that small fuses can fit in a slightly larger plug >>>> and not require anything nearly as large as European plugs that I've seen >>>> pictures / video of. >> >>XMAS lights are fused because they can be daisy-chained; the next strand >>plugged into the end of the previous strand. As such, the strand closest >>to the mains outlet sees the total load of all strands. Expecting consumers >>to observe the limit of 3 strands is wishful thinking. So, a 5A fuse in >>every plug ensures that whichever strand is "first" will open. >> >>Similarly, expecting consumers to consider each of the individual loads they >>plug into a 99c 18AWG extension cord is wishful thinking. >> >>> Fuses in plugs is a UK thing. Continental 3 pin plugs are every bit as brutal >>> in shape as UK plugs but are unfused. Continental 2 pin is pretty similar size >>> to US except with round pins 230vac rather than flat ones. >> >>US plugs (for consumer use) tend to be really poorly made. > > But are perfectly reliable. Well of course they're perfectly reliable John. It follows from the fact that anything made/used in the US can't possibly be less perfect than that which is used elsewhere. >