Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!news.szaf.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Ron Dean Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce! Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 18:09:06 -0400 Organization: Public Usenet Newsgroup Access Lines: 105 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <6w1MN.450382$yEgf.389321@fx09.iad> References: <86le6rvetn.fsf@example.com> <5vl2vilpidbokkqrd0v635aoudh42ql3u2@4ax.com> <8bpJN.709697$p%Mb.210946@fx15.iad> <0jenvil40oto62hmdksnpgj5ab3m2c0a6a@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="15369"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 13.4; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.1 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 3EFC422976C; Sun, 24 Mar 2024 18:05:26 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190E5229758 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2024 18:05:24 -0400 (EDT) id BF79E7D124; Sun, 24 Mar 2024 22:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CEB7D009 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2024 22:09:07 +0000 (UTC) by nntpmail01.iad.omicronmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46479E1368 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2024 22:09:07 +0000 (UTC) id 0DE641200186; Sun, 24 Mar 2024 22:09:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Path: fx09.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail In-Reply-To: X-Original-Complaints-To: abuse@newsgroups-download.com X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 22:09:06 UTC Bytes: 6861 Chris Thompson wrote: > Ron Dean wrote: >> jillery wrote: >>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:04:32 -0400, Ron Dean >>> posted yet another self-parody: >>> >>>> jillery wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 18:37:55 -0400, Ron Dean >>>>> posted yet another self-parody: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> prove that Life appeared not from >>>>>>>> non- life which is exactly what a believer would predict. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suppose, if your "believer" believes the Bible stories of God >>>>>>> breathing life into dust. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I heard this statement as a child. Not sure where in the Bible it's >>>>>> found. But you as an atheist naturally would rather die before >>>>>> admitting >>>>>> there may be a God (designer). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Since you mention it: >>>>> >>>>> Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and >>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living >>>>> soul. >>>>> >>>>> Genesis 3:19 for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. >>>>> >>>>> As someone you repeatedly and baselessly and pointlessly claim to be >>>>> an atheist, that I quote the Bible to you raises your words to scorn. >>>>> >>>> Even though I have thought of you as an atheist, This was the only time >>>> I actually expressed this thought. >>> >>> >>> Even if your comment above was technically correct, which it isn't, >>> that you assert the point even once, and without apology, is >>> sufficient to raise your words to scorn. >>> >>> Worse, you repeatedly and baselessly and pointlessly conflate >>> evolutionists and atheists. >>> >>> Worse, you now evade the original point, that Bible believers claim >>> life comes from non-life. >>> >>> Worse, once again you post a lie trivially proved false: >>> ********************************** >>> From: Ron Dean >>> Newsgroups: talk.origins >>> Subject: Re: Masterclass >>> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:28:33 -0500 >>> Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org >>> Message-ID: <6nOxN.99620$STLe.82442@fx34.iad> >>> >>>> As an atheist, for you to bear false witness against someone has no >>>> consequence for you. >>> ************************************* >>> >>> Is it your intent to continue to lie for God?  If so, you're doing a >>> great job. >>> >> I never deliberately lie. I been mistaken, but they were honest mistakes. > > That itself is a lie. > It's so easy to accuse anyone of anything so long as you don't have to back up your accusation/charge. When you don't - this amounts to you bearing false witness. >> >> Explain to me what consequences do you think atheist are concerned >> with. IOW what was Hitler's, Stalin's or Pol Pot's concern about >> consequences of their actions. Remember these men were engaged in >> genocide, after they gained the power, each had millions of people >> murdered. Do you think either of the 3 gave thought as to the >> consequences of such actions for themselves? >> >> I'm just curious.  I'm not suggestion this action would be taken by >> another atheist given the power to do so. But what about the mass >> murderers in the US in recent years. I also know many serial killers >> were raised in religious households. But many turn away from their >> religious  roots, but only to return later. >>> To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge >>> >> > > Did it really escape your notice that Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot amassed > armies numbering in the tens of thousands or millions, and in 2 cases > had their nations fight prolonged wars against people who were trying to > force them to account for their actions? In the third case (Stalin) by > the time others were ready to force him to account, his nation had grown > so powerful that it simply couldn't be done (except retroactively, after > he died). > > What am I saying? Of course you're willing to ignore World War 2, and > the war between Vietnam and Cambodia. Just like you're willing to ignore > every other explanation people have provided you for years. Keep lyin' > bro, god loves you for it. > > Chris >