Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel70 Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: Doctor Who Spotting Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:16:25 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 59 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:16:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e3a6574dae862abf3224218ff873b888"; logging-data="1634095"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19cTGWLyfZQhRDC82tAEFqIQEOcUIMGCp4=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.18 Cancel-Lock: sha1:BwOVq4quTSmybTH2llDE14nfMrQ= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3135 Your Name wrote on 12/06/2024 6:53 am: > On 2024-06-11 19:34:55 +0000, Blueshirt said: >> Daniel70 wrote: >>> Blueshirt wrote on 11/6/24 4:49 am: >>>> Daniel70 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> 'y' .... implied Vowel! EVERY WORD MUST HAVE A VOWEL* !! >>>> >>>> Except the words that don't... >>>> >>>> Grrr is a word, no vowel. As is Psst, no vowel... Brrr, >>>> etc... https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=grrr "grrr" ... Representing the *sound* of growling, as by a dog or similar animal https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=psst psst .... Used to attract attention or give warning, esp. surreptitiously .... represent a hiss. https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=brrr brrr .... Used as an exclamation to accompany a shiver of cold, fear, disquiet, etc. Not really GLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS as *WORDS* !! >>>> :-) >>> >>> No, they are NOT words .... they are Vocalisations ..... and >>> the above are attempted written representations of the >>> sounds/vocalisations!! >> >> If they are in the OED Yeap! > Yep, they are definitely words. Nope, VOCALISATIONS!! SOUNDS!! > If you want to get really pedantic, then "every word must have a vowel" > is wrong since there are quite a few non-English words that do not have > vowels. For example, in Croation there is "prst" (finger), "krv" > (blood), "trg" (square), "smrt" (death), etc. :-) Maybe in *Croatian* , they have a different *Golden Rule* !! .... Maybe, in Croatian (possibly one of my G-G-Grandfathers native languages, although I think he might have fled (Russia/Urals) to get to Croatia!!) the *Golden Rule* is "Every word MUST have a 'R'" >> and I can use them in Scrabble then they are words! > > I wouldn't go that far. Scrabble allows many things that are not real > English words. For a start it allows "color" which is just wrong.  :-p Thank you. ;-P "color" ... Wrong or lazy!! ;-P -- Daniel