Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Do you condemn Hamas? Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2024 20:38:12 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 96 Message-ID: References: <7er86jt9l8ob35kvnhieb0ne3cn2e12n5f@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 22:38:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6d5549604768fdd1ab6b3d3fe424fed3"; logging-data="2869508"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Dpb4XzIDpz2Fc8/lyr2IKCINFPN+guqI=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wW0Yrk1j0UmEfwkK6lnUd8kvXnU= Bytes: 5391 On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:55:18 -0700, john larkin wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 19:30:11 +0200, Jeroen Belleman > wrote: > >>On 6/8/24 16:45, john larkin wrote: >>> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 09:54:42 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 10:43:15 +0200, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/8/24 01:37, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 23:57:54 +0200, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/7/24 23:11, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote: >>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because >>>>>>>>>> they are heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed >>>>>>>>>> martyrs. So for Hamas, killing is always win-win. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor >>>>>>>>> hell. >>>>>>>>> Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious brainwashing. >>>>>>>>> There is no afterlife. There is only this life. Don't waste it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Learn how to do soul travel. It is the most important thing to do >>>>>>>> this lifetime. It will give you absolute proof there is life past >>>>>>>> this one, >>>>>>>> and that you are immortal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know what soul travel is, but I'm sure there is no >>>>>>> afterlife, just as there was no forelife. There is no soul. My >>>>>>> existence is the result of an uninterrupted sequence of incredibly >>>>>>> improbable events, going back billions of years into the past, and >>>>>>> I will cease to exist, >>>>>>> never to come back, >>>>>>> when some essential part of my body fails. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While I'm certainly not looking forward to dying, I'm not afraid >>>>>>> of being dead. The need to believe in an afterlife is just another >>>>>>> of those weird religious ideas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, I'm not religious at all but am convinced there's an >>>>>> after-life. And that's not just so I can feel all warm and fuzzy. I >>>>>> actually find the prospect deeply concerning. I'd much rather be >>>>>> like you in outlook! >>>>> >>>>> How did you come to be convinced of the existence of an afterlife, >>>>> and what kind of experience do you expect to have? >>>>> >>>>> Jeroen Belleman >>>> >>>> I'm afraid that's *way* too big and off-topic a subject for expansion >>>> on this forum! >>> >>> Designing electronics has obviously suggestions of quantum >>> consciousness, and even Einstein thought that QM was spooky. >>> >>> Don't give up on miracles quite yet. >>> >>> >>You have referred to quantum effects in the brain many times. In as far >>as the brain is a chemical machine, and that chemistry is basically a >>manifestation of quantum mechanics, I agree. In practice, QM is just a >>level too deep in the abstraction stack. Somehow I believe that that is >>not how you see it. Would you elaborate? >> >> > DNA and RNA and other things aren't flat linear molecules as the > cartoons suggest. They are twisted and tangled into writhing balls. So > any sequence gets continuously and randomly rubbed against the rest of > the string. That's a quantum cross-correlation machine. > >>Much of technology, electronics in particular, is a miracle, >>though not in the mystical or religious sense. > > I like the Barrie Gilbert essay, "Where do little circuits come from?" > > They are all out there in the infinite solution space, and it's hard to > explore an infinite space serially. > > There's nothing mystical about a universe that obviously works. And then the Leftists come along and decide that although it works, it works badly and they can fix it - or at least improve it somehow - simply by implementing policies which defy nature in an act of ultimate 'magical thinking'.