Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce! Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 01:05:34 -0400 Organization: What are you looking for? Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="90027"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:BZl2KaLqWji5G7ve2Zy5nzQM4fw= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 7B2DC22976C; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 01:02:13 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61357229758 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 01:02:11 -0400 (EDT) id 79D045DCC9; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 05:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 588405DC6E for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 05:05:41 +0000 (UTC) by pmx.weretis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98E93E883 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 06:05:36 +0100 (CET) id 91BF63E8DA; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 06:05:36 +0100 (CET) X-User-ID: eJwNyMEBwCAIA8CVBBPAcRBh/xHaex63iZXDaOBwmpBaIbg56ONB39fz6HkGD92tpTXES4mOxfmz0/zdzDXyAUMlFW4= Bytes: 3714 Lines: 56 On 10 Mar 2024 14:25:31 GMT, dgb (David) wrote: >On 9 Mar 2024 at 11:41:03 GMT, "jillery" <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 9 Mar 2024 11:01:49 GMT, dgb (David) >> wrote: >>=20 >>> On 9 Mar 2024 at 10:50:47 GMT, "jillery" <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Patterns exist >>>> everywhere, from stars in the sky to cloud formations to rain drops = on >>>> a window, >>>=20 >>> They do indeed! >>>=20 >>>> and most of them were created without benefit of intelligence >>>> or purpose or plan. >>>=20 >>> You cannot /possibly/ know that to be true! >>=20 >>=20 >> I acknowledge I can't know with absolute certainty it's true, just as >> I can't know some intelligence didn't purposely make these patterns >> appear as if they followed statistical probability. >>=20 >> However, the standard is to identify evidence for a claim. Since >> these patterns are consistent with unguided natural processes, that is >> sufficient to support my claim. What evidence do you have the >> existence of these patterns required intelligence? > >The evidence may be found here:- > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God The key word in your reply is "may". Circular arguments don't qualify as evidence. =20 >>> I think you are wrong. >>=20 >> You're entitled to your opinion, which is as good as any other >> baseless opinion. > >If I had wanted YOUR opinion I'd have given it to you! You can't always get what you want,=20 but if you try sometimes,=20 well you might find,=20 you get what you need. -- To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge