Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: (OT) Windows 10 won't back up to an internal HD? Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 15:34:25 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: <24q9O.17886$6Fcc.17282@fx09.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 17:34:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="99f8fb72493192b4ccfe20d84268c401"; logging-data="557693"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18qUYywCGc3SYULKLZWvRZ0" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SdI3EqzD1OoQ4yO702LkpMfkUnI= Bytes: 4667 On 2024-06-10, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > On 2024-06-09 7:44 p.m., RonB wrote: >> On 2024-06-09, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>> On 2024-06-08 5:06 a.m., RonB wrote: >>>> My wife's Windows 10 computer (Inspiron, not my choice) came with a 256GB >>>> SSD and a 1TB hard drive. Stupid me, I assumed that Dell would set up it up >>>> so the program data would save on the TB hard drive and the applications >>>> would run from the SSD. Nope. Everything ran on the SSD and all data was >>>> saved there. The hard drive is just a drone, sitting there and doing >>>> nothing. (I just discovered this.) >>>> >>>> So after about three years, her computer slowed way down. I assumed she >>>> needed more memory and bought a 32GB SIM (so she now has 40GBs of RAM). >>>> Still slow. Then I realized that she had filled up her SSD. It actually had >>>> only 25MBs free tonight. It's a wonder it ran at all. >>>> >>>> So I ordered a 1TB SSD, and tonight cloned it in an external enclosure and >>>> installed it. Worked well (the SSD came with Acronis True Disk). I saw that >>>> Acronis had a backup utility as well, so figured I would back up the new SSD >>>> to the practically unused hard drive... and I found out Microsoft doesn't >>>> like backing up to an internal hard drive. Why does it have this limitation? >>>> >>>> For those of you who use Windows, is there any way to make Windows 10 back >>>> up to an internal hard drive? I've seen something about making the internal >>>> drive a "network drive," which seems kind of convoluted. Is there any >>>> application that overrides this (to me) senseless limitation? And why does >>>> Windows 10 have this limitation — is there a logical reason for it? >>>> (Apparently Windows 7 didn't have this limitation.) >>>> >>>> Kind of ranting. Sorry. But I would like to see my wife's internal hard >>>> drive set up for backups — if possible. >>> >>> It might be a situation similar to my mother's Intel NUC. There were two >>> HDs in there, one of which was used exclusively to re-image the SSD in >>> case of failure. As far as I know, it was write-protected though I have >>> never admitted to actually use it. >> >> No, the hard drive is just a standard hard drive (it's seen as the D: >> drive). You can access it and copy files to it manually, but you can't set >> up backup on it (directly from Windows, anyhow). Apparently this changed >> with the release of Windows 10, Windows 7 (and, I think, 8) would backup to >> internal hard drives. I've got to believe there is an application to do >> this, but none that I've found so far specifically say they will work with >> an internal hard drive. I really don't quite understand why Windows 10/11 >> has this limitation. > > I'm surprised that anyone even uses the Windows Backup system, to be > honest. Every time I've taken a look at it, it appeared to be little > more than an automated process to copy your Documents and Pictures > folders elsewhere. I'm totally ignorant about the best way to back up Windows. I just know I have a 1 TB drive that's not being used and figured it would work well to back up the SSD. Any suggestions on backup software. The SSD came with Acronis (and includes a backup feature, but it doesn't allow me to use the internal hard drive for this? -- [Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." "It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine