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From: Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce!
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Ron Dean wrote:
> Chris Thompson wrote:
>> Ron Dean wrote:
>>> jillery wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:04:32 -0400, Ron Dean
>>>> <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> posted yet another self-parody:
>>>>
>>>>> jillery wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 18:37:55 -0400, Ron Dean
>>>>>> <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> posted yet another self-parody:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip pointless digressions>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> prove that Life appeared not from
>>>>>>>>> non- life which is exactly what a believer would predict.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose, if your "believer" believes the Bible stories of God
>>>>>>>> breathing life into dust.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard this statement as a child. Not sure where in the Bible it's
>>>>>>> found. But you as an atheist naturally would rather die before 
>>>>>>> admitting
>>>>>>> there may be a God (designer).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since you mention it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a 
>>>>>> living
>>>>>> soul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Genesis 3:19 for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As someone you repeatedly and baselessly and pointlessly claim to be
>>>>>> an atheist, that I quote the Bible to you raises your words to scorn.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Even though I have thought of you as an atheist, This was the only 
>>>>> time
>>>>> I actually expressed this thought.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even if your comment above was technically correct, which it isn't,
>>>> that you assert the point even once, and without apology, is
>>>> sufficient to raise your words to scorn.
>>>>
>>>> Worse, you repeatedly and baselessly and pointlessly conflate
>>>> evolutionists and atheists.
>>>>
>>>> Worse, you now evade the original point, that Bible believers claim
>>>> life comes from non-life.
>>>>
>>>> Worse, once again you post a lie trivially proved false:
>>>> **********************************
>>>> From: Ron Dean <rondean-noreply@gmail.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: talk.origins
>>>> Subject: Re: Masterclass
>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:28:33 -0500
>>>> Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org
>>>> Message-ID: <6nOxN.99620$STLe.82442@fx34.iad>
>>>>
>>>>> As an atheist, for you to bear false witness against someone has no
>>>>> consequence for you.
>>>> *************************************
>>>>
>>>> Is it your intent to continue to lie for God?  If so, you're doing a
>>>> great job.
>>>>
>>> I never deliberately lie. I been mistaken, but they were honest 
>>> mistakes.
>>
>> That itself is a lie.
>>
> It's so easy to accuse anyone of anything so long as you don't have to 
> back up your accusation/charge.
> When you don't - this amounts to you bearing false witness.

If I assert "the sun rose in the east this morning" I really don't have 
to provide a video of dawn and a compass to back up my statement. It's 
happened regularly enough and often enough that it comes as no surprise.
Likewise, if I post to talk.origins "Ron Dean lied again" it's greeted 
with the same amount of surprise (I have no idea if you post to other 
groups, or if you behave the same way there as you do here. Nor do I 
care.) Jillery in particular has done an amazing job of documenting your 
falsehoods, often quoting material you posted in the recent past to 
provide evidence. Burkhard also went into great detail about Darwin's 
mindset and motivation, providing links that indicated you'd been 
apprised of Darwin's own writings on those matters- and you went on to 
spout the same falsehoods about Darwin.

Do you think people don't remember these things? Do you think your lies 
disappear because they fell off your newsreader?

On top of everything else, you hide behind this false outrage in order 
to try to evade the arguments that reduce your positions to rubble.

But keep at it. Your god of lies loves you more every day.

Chris

>>>
>>> Explain to me what consequences do you think atheist are concerned 
>>> with. IOW what was Hitler's, Stalin's or Pol Pot's concern about 
>>> consequences of their actions. Remember these men were engaged in 
>>> genocide, after they gained the power, each had millions of people 
>>> murdered. Do you think either of the 3 gave thought as to the 
>>> consequences of such actions for themselves?
>>>
>>> I'm just curious.  I'm not suggestion this action would be taken by 
>>> another atheist given the power to do so. But what about the mass 
>>> murderers in the US in recent years. I also know many serial killers 
>>> were raised in religious households. But many turn away from their 
>>> religious  roots, but only to return later.
>>>> To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did it really escape your notice that Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot 
>> amassed armies numbering in the tens of thousands or millions, and in 
>> 2 cases had their nations fight prolonged wars against people who were 
>> trying to force them to account for their actions? In the third case 
>> (Stalin) by the time others were ready to force him to account, his 
>> nation had grown so powerful that it simply couldn't be done (except 
>> retroactively, after he died).
>>
>> What am I saying? Of course you're willing to ignore World War 2, and 
>> the war between Vietnam and Cambodia. Just like you're willing to 
>> ignore every other explanation people have provided you for years. 
>> Keep lyin' bro, god loves you for it.
>>
>> Chris