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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Your Name Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: Toxic fandom Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:27:07 +1200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 70 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:27:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="409b3effc27ad8b4936bc3850f61e40b"; logging-data="1616587"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19xKJyVlXWsEFQ8908d9MigGk1CAXhpgec=" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:/QaIneMDtSojcD3UM4DrI43dU+E= Bytes: 3928 On 2024-06-11 23:42:39 +0000, Blueshirt said: > Your Name wrote: >> On 2024-06-11 19:26:32 +0000, Blueshirt said: >>> The Doctor wrote: >>>> In article , >>>> Blueshirt wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Timeless Child is going nowhere, you'd want to start >>>>> getting used to it... move on. >>>> >>>> The Timeless Child deserved to be rubbished! >>> >>> Yes it did. BUT... it was still part of the show. >>> >>> The McCoy era deserved to be rubbished, BUT... it was still >>> part of the show. >>> >>> Like any long running TV show Doctor Who has been good, >>> average and bad... that's the way it goes. But even so, it's >>> ALL Doctor Who. >> >> Yes and no. >> >> Although "reboots" do usually re-use the same or similar names >> and are echnically in the same franchise, they are in reality >> completely different shows. The most obvious example being >> "Battlestar Galactica" - there's the real Glen Larson original >> version, then the horrible "Galactica 1980" version, and then >> there's the awful Moore-Ron "reboot" version. (There is also a >> planned movie version which will be different again, and an >> even sillier planned movie that will somehow supposedly link >> the two very different versions while ignoring "Galactica >> 1980"). >> >> The problem with Doctor Who is that the main character's >> ability to regenerate so they can replace the actor, makes it >> harder to spot the "reboot" attempts. The gender-swapping and >> now race-swapping are two of the more blatant "reboot" >> attempts within Doctor Who franchise, mainly to appease the >> Politically Correct / Equality brigade ... because as we all >> "know", there were never any female nor black actors on TV >> shows before about 2010, :-\ >> >> "Reboots" are never a good idea, and simply a sign that the >> creator doesn't really know what to do. Another term covering >> a simialr sudden change is often "jumping ths shark", named >> after an episode of the US sitcom "Happy Days" when they >> decided to make big changes to the format becauser they had >> run out of sensibly fitting ideas. > > I know the eras of Doctor Who are vastly different but I don't > look at Doctor Who post 2005 (or 2023 onwards even) as reboots > per se, as the Doctor numbering continues... so for me they are > just jumping on points for potential new fans. > > Had RTD in 2005 started again with a new First Doctor, then yes, > I would have viewed that as a full reboot. But as it was, > calling Christopher Eccleston the Ninth Doctor meant us older > fans of the show could just envisage it as a continuation. The Doctor numbering continues mainly because that's a fan-based thing .... has the numbering ever been mentioned in-show?? The season numbering has definitely restarted twice at 1 again. > Battlestar Galactica OTOH... no, we won't even go there!!! :-(