Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Evidence v Conclusions Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2024 17:36:45 +0100 Organization: Frantic Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <867chao3c2.fsf@example.com> References: <1tf21jdg30uru7c2ossq8j6ifrqdcefh0l@4ax.com> <86o7amocxq.fsf@example.com> <86frvyo80g.fsf@example.com> <481bea446c3d6f3930fed32d0a94e807@www.novabbs.com> <86bk6mo5lp.fsf@example.com> <86mdnZK4n5kZ6Yz7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="63019"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:BCopNSDxPlLSY+FXaqJimN1xrNQ= sha1:58lt58+2IDfavgmPvhKE46QhxPk= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id D149D22976C; Sat, 6 Apr 2024 12:36:46 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA739229758 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2024 12:36:44 -0400 (EDT) id 341945DCE2; Sat, 6 Apr 2024 16:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12ED35DCC9 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2024 16:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pmx.weretis.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D7B03E87A for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2024 18:36:46 +0200 (CEST) id 3CF873E866; Sat, 6 Apr 2024 18:36:46 +0200 (CEST) X-User-ID: eJwFwQkRADAIAzBLfIVNDvSGfwlL4KnJikQGFissQuE5Nf7OIE2mKbTHV6Mhl2XSsceWfT8bqRFN Bytes: 3829 Lines: 39 *Hemidactylus* writes: > Richmond wrote: >> j.nobel.daggett@gmail.com (LDagget) writes: >> >>> Richmond wrote: >>> >>>> j.nobel.daggett@gmail.com (LDagget) writes: >>> >>>>> That's quite false as there exist many different independent lines >>>>> of evidence for the existence of electrons beyond modeling the flow of >>>>> electricity. >>> >>>> Yes there are, but people often offer electricity, or worse still, >>>> television, as evidence. >>> >>>>> >>>>> Are you even aware of who JJ Thomson is? If so, do you understand >>> >>>> Oh it's you again. Are you even aware the standard model is a model? >>> >>> Cathode ray tubes don't produce models, they produce electron beams. >>> >>> The data interpretation doesn't require the standard model of particle >>> physics. Neither do slit experiments. What it looks like is there's >>> a lack of evidence that you understand either bit of evidence. Or have >>> ever seen that evidence? I'm guessing you never looked. I guess as >>> long as you play see no, hear no, speak no games, your >>> assertion will survive your personal belief system. >> >> What are you talking about you gormless fuckwit? >> > And there we have it. The problem with this group is people argue with imaginary people. You see at the end there he talks about my personal belief system, and yet he has no idea what it is. I said that people interpret electricity as evidence of electrons, and he says that is false, but I know it is true, I have spoken to such people.