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From: Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com>
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Subject: Re: Babel
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 04:58:03 -0700
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 07:47:35 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 3/25/2024 11:29 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
>> On 3/25/24 2:18 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>> Mad Hamish  <newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote:
>>>> On 5 Mar 2024 01:35:28 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, I am reading Rebecca Kuang's _Babel_ to see just what it was 
>>>>> that the
>>>>> Hugo Committee may have objected to, and I find it extremely 
>>>>> pro-Chinese.
>>>>> It is strongly against British imperialism and against the Opium 
>>>>> War, and
>>>>> the Chinese government of the time may not have been very strong but 
>>>>> was
>>>>> determined.
>>>>
>>>> I think I've heard that the issue isn't the current work but that
>>>> she's written stuff critical of China in the past.
>>>
>>> Which would be even WORSE because it would be punishing her for 
>>> "reforming"
>>> and finally writing something less critical.
>>>
>>> Whatever it was, it was sure a mess.
>>> --scott
>> 
>> As I noted elsewhere, the good news is that all this resulted in a lot 
>> of publicity for the book, which could well reach a wider audience than 
>> if it *had* won the Hugo.
>
>Regardless of nigglined edge cases, the point remains. Russia has
>been invaded many times in history, while the US mainland has not.
>
>pt

Depends how far back you go in history.  How about the first half of
the last half millennium.
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