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From: Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Dawkins the 'Cultural Christian'
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:06:59 +0100
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 22:20:46 -0600, Pro Plyd
<invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 12:36:22 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> Dawkins has blamed religion for most of the evil in the world and has
>>>> described teaching religion to children as worse than sexual abuse.
>>>> Beats me how he can see "cultural" benefit in something so bad. Mind
>>>> you, he has come out with some rather weird views in recent years.
>>>
>>> I should think he does it by cherry picking which bits of the bible to
>>> pay attention to, which is what Christians do too, but different bits.
>> 
>> I've read quite a bit of Dawkins over the years, he's one of my
>> favourite *science* writers but he's really dreadful when he starts
>> harping on about religion. AFAIR, he never suggested that parts of
>> religious beliefs were ok, he unequivocally condemned *all* religious
>> beliefs. I can't remember where but I recall him saying that the Pope
>> and the Archbishop of Canterbury weren't really much better than Osama
>> bin Laden, they just presented a kinder face.
>
>I'm reminded of a couple of Gandhi quotes
>
>
>"If Christians would really live according
>to the teachings of Christ, as found in the
>Bible, all of India would be Christian today."
>
>
>"Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you
>Christians - you are not like him."
>
>“I like your Christ, I do not like your
>Christians. Your Christians are so
>unlike your Christ.”

Do you think Gandhi was applying that to *all* Christians or even
Christians in general and, if so do you agree with him?

>
>
>and for extra credit
>
>"What do I think of Western civilization? I
>think it would be a very good idea."