Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: suzeeq Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Mail-In Voting Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:30:21 -0700 Message-ID: References: <68-cndeZBcdJV5n7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:30:22 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="450549"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:rIQYjDRXBXm+ozJLJu5R+3nGMmk= X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwDAEBMCVKniMEx/2H6F3rhAwDA7z9S3mEfOTLcIZ1yywRz9gBq9f1FsEKzHkvT8XMxGq Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 4287 Lines: 65 On 4/10/2024 12:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > suzeeq wrote: >> On 4/10/2024 9:52 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>> suzeeq wrote: >>>> On 4/9/2024 10:56 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>>> The Horny Goat wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 16:07:55 +0000, BTR1701 wrote: > >>>>>>>> Or making the voter go back to their home state and get an original >>>>>>>> birth certificate - meaning it takes time and money to meet the >>>>>>>> requirements. > >>>>>>> No DMV requires you to do that to get a driver license or ID card. > >>>>>> I've had to renew mine within the past year and the _ONLY_ ID I was >>>>>> required to show was the about to be retired licence. > >>>>> Fred Phelps was lying. You were required to show your birth certificate >>>>> when you obtained your initial driver's license. Yes, if you renew an >>>>> unexpired driver's license, they don't force you to go through all the >>>>> initial identification steps. I had to repeat the initial identification >>>>> steps last time I renewed because I obtained REAL ID. > >>>> If you move to a different state, sometimes you have to show your birth >>>> certificate as well as the current DL from the old state. Often they >>>> mark the old license Invalid, and let you keep it as backup ID. You're >>>> justnot legal to drive with it. > >>> I would never do that. I'd go through the process of obtaining a license >>> as a new driver, which means taking the driving and written tests. I >>> don't need one state to do me the "favor" of informing another state >>> that I moved. > >> I did have to take the written tests in the new states. Which part would >> you not do, and which part informs another state? > > Tell the clerk "I want to be licensed as a brand-new driver and I'm hear > to take the driving test." Then surrendering your existing license and > informing the other state won't happen. If they mark the old license as > "invalid", you are going to have a difficult time using it as > identification especially if you are still a part-year resident of the > other state. Isn't it still a picture ID, even though it's not valid for driving? > Of course, if you've converted to REAL ID, then they'll look you up on > the Homeland Security database, which recognizes just one primary > residence at a time. > They weren't at the time, and the REAL ID license I have now is only 2 years old. >>> I may not have moved. I might live part time in one state and part time >>> in the other state, which means I always want to retain ID from both >>> states. > >> I don't think they allow you, unless you're a college student. But you >> might have to have valid licenses in both states. The ones from my old >> state were expiring soon anyway, I just didn't get a DL right away on >> moving to the new state. > > In that case if it expired, you can say legitimately that you don't have > a valid driver's license from another state! > I got the new licenses (I moved several times) just before they expired, not after. Because I would have had to take the driving test for sure.