Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 02:37:04 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Do you condemn Hamas? Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 19:37:04 -0700 Message-ID: <9sg76jls1tsvdbd9v0v82463kj6m55i1a9@4ax.com> References: <6663837f$0$2363147$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <7b176jdajq3co9nosj8qnie8rupdrsfoav@4ax.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 108 X-Trace: sv3-f8pn1mVCbJNFERUNalwlbqc3pKvGioyshBnPyg5ow+8GWikWzJgN3e94susjCaRgZSVTTI7tBmhMpSd!+b7t3Km7N90CPNptS1drHlOgcLNsgleJUiUCX/8Hqtpm9KTYGpzLLu5RPmlCkXENu+UezUmFRMRH!TtFJcw== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5881 On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 22:11:58 -0400, "Edward Rawde" wrote: >"john larkin" wrote in message news:fle76jld4pj0rj412uv49jjfe4grpupa44@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 21:18:20 -0400, "Edward Rawde" >> wrote: >> >>>"john larkin" wrote in message news:dq976jlhrp1puom0ha9ogpte8aniroj94i@4ax.com... >>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:25:36 -0400, "Edward Rawde" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>"john larkin" wrote in message news:7b176jdajq3co9nosj8qnie8rupdrsfoav@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 18:02:38 -0400, bitrex wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 6/7/2024 5:26 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>>>> "Jeroen Belleman" wrote in message news:v3vtf6$2824r$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 22:35, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:53:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because they are >>>>>>>>>>>> heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed martyrs. So for >>>>>>>>>>>> Hamas, killing is always win-win. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor hell. >>>>>>>>>>> Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious brainwashing. >>>>>>>>>>> There is no afterlife. There is only this life. Don't waste it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Until you understand the origin of the universe and the nature of >>>>>>>>>> consciousness, you can't know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Religion is human's reason to have morality. Morality leads to >>>>>>>>>> enlightment and a kind, just, productive society. Where else would >>>>>>>>>> morality and justice come from? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One interpretation of religion is our collective feelings about proper >>>>>>>>>> behavior to others. Obviously, there are different religions with, >>>>>>>>>> possibly, genetic components. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In my personal experience, religious people are nicer than atheists. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Better cooks too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh! That's nonsense. Religion is a human invention, much like >>>>>>>>> father Christmas and the tooth fairy. The difference is that >>>>>>>>> many people never get over it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Religion has no right to claim to be the source of morality! >>>>>>>>> Morality stems from a desire to cooperate to our mutual benefit. >>>>>>>>> Religion never even comes into it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I see no clear tendency of religious people to be nicer. I've >>>>>>>>> seen quite a few who were real bastards. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's pretty much my experience too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Come to New England you'll meet a different cut of conservative, who has >>>>>>>no need for God or the Bible to explain why they think women shouldn't >>>>>>>vote or homosexuals should be hung. "I just don't like the fuckers." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have lots of relatives in Mass and have spent many months of my life >>>>>> in NYC and Vermont >>>>> >>>>>Would I be correct in thinking that you've never been outside the USA except perhaps for a short vacation? >>>> >>>> >>>> I have spend a few months in France and a month working in Moscow. >>>> Some weeks working in England, in Oxford, and a few weeks vacatining >>>> in Ireland. Some time in Hamamatsu. >>>> >>>> I guess Alaska and Hawaii don't count. >>>> >>>> I have never encountered the sort of nastiness that other people seem >>>> to have. Most people are friendly and decent. >>>> >>> >>>Well your response to my reference to https://russell-j.com/0464NP.HTM was pretty nasty in my view. >>> >>> >> >> BR is dead, so I didn't offend him. > >I don't think he would have been offended even if he were still alive. >https://www.google.com/search?q=bertrand+russell+message+to+future+generations > >> >> He sounded smug and nasty to me. > >But did you take a moment to take in anything he said? Or did you just let your emotional hormones get the better of your neurones >like the rest of us are capable of doing at times? > >> > I read the essay, and some others of his. He did have a good attitude towards women.