Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Martin Harran Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: West Virginia creationism Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 11:47:30 +0100 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 28 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: <%AzVN.19359$8tL7.11884@fx09.iad> <3n8m2jtvhd0nahms2un4i2gjbt1t6bpbk2@4ax.com> <2e5n3j1u9a0pdcmpd4m78l2dssq3kns552@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="93502"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.individual.net Cancel-Lock: sha1:rlNucyeBcdEYxCwXAM/i8070F3k= sha256:x5rKN5Q6Ca8SBhZyQ1h+4szQ77tXiQ/gtUufwJbZWMc= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 303F4229786; Tue, 14 May 2024 06:47:42 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E55BC229767 for ; Tue, 14 May 2024 06:47:39 -0400 (EDT) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.97) for talk-origins@moderators.individual.net with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1s6phE-00000002v5E-39F7; Tue, 14 May 2024 12:47:48 +0200 by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.97) for talk-origins@moderators.individual.net with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1s6pgy-00000000Yt1-1g4C; Tue, 14 May 2024 12:47:32 +0200 by relay1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.97) for talk-origins@moderators.individual.net with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1s6pgy-00000000oQd-1P7M; Tue, 14 May 2024 12:47:32 +0200 for talk-origins@moderators.individual.net with local-bsmtp (envelope-from ) id 1s6pgx-000000020LZ-0eiS; Tue, 14 May 2024 12:47:31 +0200 X-Path: individual.net!not-for-mail X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net xKKRvko6Cucr0vH0w+DevAtutOfDEq2kkaa1jOggvOVA2FMFpA X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO Bytes: 4087 On Wed, 8 May 2024 15:01:28 -0400, Ron Dean wrote: [...] >There is something, rarely mentioned in the literature. Darwin was a >Christian until a great tragedy befell him and his family. That's the >death of his daughter, Annie in 1851 at the age of 10. This naturally >caused great pain to Darwin and this terrible tragedy turned him against >religion and God whom he blamed. Back on 17 April, you wrote: "So, from this evidence I can see where I was clearly mistaken as to Darwin's intent. He did not initially set out to discredit either Paley or God." Having been shown to have come out with utter rubbish about the effect of Paley on Darwin, you now turn to further rubbish to try to hold on to your belief that Darwin was driven by some desire to get rid of God. I'm still waiting for you to explain how come I and other religious believers have no problem accepting the Theory of Evolution and the role of Natural Selection. [...]