Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed2-a.proxad.net!nnrp4-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER Subject: Re: This FOSS Thang :-) References: <17bc1de93bb4055f$981$3331982$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <65f600a1$0$8233$426a74cc@news.free.fr> Organization: Mulots' Killer User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 22 Mar 2024 22:52:28 GMT Lines: 77 Message-ID: <65fe0bac$0$2988$426a74cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Mar 2024 23:52:28 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 78.201.248.7 X-Trace: 1711147948 news-1.free.fr 2988 78.201.248.7:59832 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Bytes: 4300 Le 19-03-2024, -hh a écrit : > Plus you're implying that the work done by full time UI professionals is > bad I'm not implying anything. It's clear. > ... but do you have any credible citations for that? Cite, please. Why should I cite anyone? When I'm using my computer, I not asking anyone how he feels about it. I can see by myself that the GUI designed by UI professionals are slowing me. So they're bad and it needs to be changed. I have nobody to cite and I really see no reason why I should. >> And >> finely, you can use the time spend by others to start from something >> almost ready to adapt it easily to your own needs. > > That's an argument to go with whoever has the larger marketshare, as > they've had the greatest amount of user UI feedback to optimize from. No. When I want a theme, I can find a few even with a limited market share. I don't find the exact one that I want, but I can find easily a close enough one. When I want a way to do something, I can find someone who needed it before me or something close. Without need of market share. >> There's a lot of >> configuration files and ideas to help you improve your configuration >> effortlessly. > > Still isn't a zero amount of time ... which adds up the more you tweak. Yes, but the amount of time added is less than the time I would loose by using a default done by a bad UI designer. >> So yes, I value my time and my confort. And you didn't gave me anything >> to mow because your way would make me lost a lot of time and comfort. > > Precisely the reason to trust professionals to be closer to offering a > more optimal UI. Nope. I know tools designed by professionals. They are not mean to be efficient but to be beautiful and use by someone who don't want to learn. >> When I do something it's useful for a really long time. For example, >> When I started to learn about tilling Windows Managers, it was with >> wmii. Then I was able to use a lot of its configuration to switch to >> i3wm. And then, it was the same with swaywm. So with the lot of >> similarities between the WM, I used the same shortcuts and I didn't need >> to learn anything new. For a very few time invested during the years. >> Unlike Windows, which changed everything with each upgrade and I needed >> a few months to find my way out each time. > > Which for users who don't need to know how to program tiling, but just > use the UI, this is relevant...how? That's exactly my point. Thanks a lot for your support. You really dismissed my points because you consider they are irrelevant when you don't understand them. I'll rephrase it. You say: "If you value your time, do my way." I say: "I value my time and your way will slow me and make me lose my time." You say: "Your arguments are irrelevant for people who don't like your way." And that's where your arguments are garbage. I don't care about the way the others are using their computers. I care about the way I'm using mine. So, when you say: "Do my way because others don't like your way, it's better for you.", it's just shit. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io