Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fdn.fr!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!cleanfeed1-b.proxad.net!nnrp6-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER Subject: Re: Why Unicode is Shit References: <17d8f953df0055c6$92217$3210899$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> Organization: Mulots' Killer User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 14 Jun 2024 23:16:52 GMT Lines: 99 Message-ID: <666ccf64$0$7511$426a74cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jun 2024 01:16:52 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 78.201.248.7 X-Trace: 1718407012 news-1.free.fr 7511 78.201.248.7:53474 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Bytes: 4567 Le 14-06-2024, Farley Flud a écrit : That's a great one. With only one message, you managed to show you: - know nothing in another subject you chose to abord (ie: unicode), - prove you are unable to sort words with non-English characters (unlike your claims in another message), - know nothing about the way characters are used (ie: not about a technical part). > Like all the other fucking incompetent assholes in this world, > the Unicode consortium has fucked it all up. In fact, if a lot of things has been badly done, unicode is a really good thing. For three reasons: - They provided a way to stay compatible with ASCII characters, which means old code doesn't need to be updated and it's not a small thing. - They granted the possibility to write all the languages in the world with only one system. - They have been able to adapt when it was needed. And it's far more than you can claim of your dreams. > Unicode only contains 32-bit (i.e. 4 byte) characters! So what? > Now, 32-bits is an awful lot Yep. > but it's not FUTURE PROOF. When will it become saturated? How many characters or defined? How many characters are available? How long will it take to attain the limit? > An example is the math code pages which define all currently > used math symbols -- but what about the fucking future? Can't you find a better example? I'll give some hint: emoji. But even that's not enough to support your claim. > Math is not dead. It will grow over the next few centuries > and so will its symbols. Of course math will still grow and other symbols will be needed. But not by thousands. Far from it. > What's true for math is certainly true for other areas. Yes, I told you emoji. That's the real concern. But even for emoji, there is a lot of availability. > Thus Unicode, in a relatively short time, Yes, it's relative. Comparing to the age on the universe a million years is very short. Comparing to your life, even the children you'll never have won't have children able to see the limit of the unicode. > will have to scrap its current form and devise a whole new coding. It has been able to adapt before, it will be able to adapt later. it's the difference with you who is stuck in the past. > The problem is similar to the "Year 2000" or "Year 2038" issues but > will be much more difficult to resolve. There are three different issues and unicode is the easier one to solve because they did a great job. It's not their fault if you can't understand it. > They should have started with a 64-bit, or even 128-bit, > encoding. So what if there are vast empty blocks. That > space is reserved for the future. What future? When unicode, as actually defined will find its limits? When a 64 bits or 128 bit will find its limits? Because if unicode in 32 bits is limited, it would be limited with 6 or 128 bits too. So, you'll have to know how long time it would give us. > Unicode should be a project for millennia In fact, it is. > and not for the lifetime of the short-sighted assholes who first > introduced it. In fact, it's not. It's only your inability to understand it which is provided in this message. It's not the great guys who created unicode fault. > Note: In this, as with everything else, GNU/Linux/FOSS will > lead the way. We need universal and open standards and not > protectionism for grubbing private corps. The end of your message is really great. In so few words you managed to put so many stupidities, it's impressive: it can't be random. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io