Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Cells may possess hidden communication system Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:52:25 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:52:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="37e01aa39ad71e591c97e77262d7e9b8"; logging-data="3970577"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Q/OFNN3cTIvzJLcTTMSuz0D9GjHaLzGI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:S7Ncjd/3koI9o5LoVRjkmzHydmc= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2659 On 27/04/2024 12:17 am, John Larkin wrote: > On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 05:42:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje > wrote: > >> Cells may possess hidden communication system >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/04/240424160454.htm >> New research finds ion gradients across membranes form an information network for rapid cellular decision-making independent of DNA >> Date: >> April 24, 2024 >> Source: >> H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center & Research Institute >> >> Seems logical to me... > > "For decades, scientists have viewed DNA as the sole source of > cellular information." > > Well, some of the dumber ones did. Cellular function studies have a > long and honored history of stupidity. Nerve cells communicate with with one another by fiddling local potassium to sodium ion ratios. It changes the voltage difference across the cell-to-cell junctions. The signals can propagate fairly fast. https://nba.uth.tmc.edu/neuroscience/m/s1/chapter03.html "In fact, the propagation velocity of the action potentials in nerves can vary from 100 meters per second (580 miles per hour) to less than a tenth of a meter per second (0.22 miles per hour)." DNA doesn't come into it (or at least not directly). Science daily was suggesting that regular cells use a similar sort of system for communicating with their near neighbours. Why this would be a "hidden communication system" escapes me. If nobody looked for it, it wouldn't have to be "hidden" to be unknown. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney