Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 04:04:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's Battle With OpenAI Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <4AGdncoJueTB0cz7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: trotsky In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 123 Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 09:04:28 +0000 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17d34d1c954e0040$170$3896011$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> X-Received-Bytes: 7044 Bytes: 7171 On 5/26/24 1:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article , FPP > wrote: > >> On 5/25/24 11:35 AM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> FPP wrote: >>>> On 5/24/24 10:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> >>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/ar-BB1mWLqa >>>>> >>>>> Scarlett Johansson's powerful Hollywood agent, Bryan Lourd, wanted >>>>> answers when he made an urgent call to Sam Altman last week: What do >>>>> you think you're doing? >>>>> >>>>> Altman's artificial intelligence powerhouse, OpenAI, had for months >>>>> unsuccessfully courted Johansson, who memorably voiced an AI assistant >>>>> in the 2013 film HER. Last September, Johansson turned down an offer >>>>> to work with OpenAI and voice a new assistant feature. >>>>> >>>>> Altman didn't give up. In mid-May, he texted Lourd, co-chairman of >>>>> Creative Artists Agency, asking if Johansson might reconsider-- he >>>>> wanted to show the actress something he'd been working on, people >>>>> familiar with the interaction said. The camps couldn't settle on a >>>>> time to meet. Then on May 13, OpenAI showcased an updated AI system, >>>>> equipped with new voice assistants for its Chat GPT tool, including a >>>>> female named Sky. >>>>> >>>>> Johansson was surprised and angry. She and Lourd thought-- and others >>>>> agreed-- that Sky's voice sounded "eerily similar" to the actress. >>>>> Lourd and the actress spent the morning fielding calls and emails from >>>>> friends and associates, some of whom worried that OpenAI had simply >>>>> appropriated Johansson's voice without permission. >>>>> >>>>> When Lourd confronted Altman, however, the OpenAI chief executive was >>>>> incredulous. Did they really think the voice sounded like Johansson? >>>>> Was she mad? >>>>> >>>>> So began the most dramatic episode yet in the collision between Hollywood >>>>> and the exploding world of artificial intelligence. >>>>> >>>>> The emergence of AI as a rapidly advancing and perhaps unstoppable force >>>>> has sparked deep anxiety in creative industries that for decades have >>>>> been governed by strict rules of how creators are compensated for their >>>>> work. The reason is that the language models that power generative AI >>>>> chat tools are typically made using text, images, music and videos >>>>> hoovered up from across the internet. That can include material that >>>>> is copyrighted, valuable and often paywalled-- like Scarlett Johansson's >>>>> voice. >>>>> >>>>> Johansson-- who just three years ago waged a blistering and public legal >>>>> campaign against Disney-- hired a legal team to demand answers from >>>>> Altman and OpenAI and issued an excoriating statement. >>>>> >>>>> OpenAI, however, said Sky was never intended to resemble Johansson, and >>>>> that the company had hired a voice actor who recorded the part before any >>>>> outreach to Johansson. People close to Altman say he wanted Johansson >>>>> to be involved in the voice project, potentially as an additional voice >>>>> or to promote the product. >>>>> >>>>> OpenAI paused use of the Sky voice on Sunday after receiving legal >>>>> letters from Johansson's team of representatives. Altman said Monday >>>>> evening in a statement that he apologized for failing to communicate >>>>> better. >>>>> >>>>> Altman has been the most visible face of the AI movement since OpenAI >>>>> launched ChatGPT in late 2022 and ignited a global frenzy over AI >>>>> technology. He and the company face numerous challenges, including a >>>>> slew of copyright lawsuits and mounting pressure to advance its GPT-4 >>>>> technology. It's also trying to move past its leadership crisis from >>>>> last November, when OpenAI's then-board of directors fired Altman for >>>>> failing to be "consistently candid". He was quickly reinstated as CEO. >>>>> >>>>> For performers like Johansson and IP owners, it is hard to prove whether >>>>> their likeness or content has been misused. Regulations governing the >>>>> systems are scant. >>>>> >>>>> Altman in a speech last year said he and other OpenAI executives were >>>>> inspired by the 2013 film HER, in which a man falls in love with his AI >>>>> assistant, voiced by Johansson. The company aimed to develop an >>>>> assistant like Apple's Siri or Microsoft's Cortana that users could >>>>> talk to. >>>>> >>>>> Last May, the company sent out a casting call looking for male, female, >>>>> and nonbinary voices in the 25 to 45 age range. It wanted voices that >>>>> were warm, engaging and charismatic, internal documents reviewed by The >>>>> Wall Street Journal show. "Someone you instantly trust and feel a >>>>> kinship with. Nothing 'put on'." >>>>> >>>>> It whittled down a list of 400 applicants and flew actors to San >>>>> Francisco last June and July for recording sessions. The actors were >>>>> asked to sign nondisclosure agreements and refrain from providing voice >>>>> recordings to OpenAI's competitors for three years after the product >>>>> launch, the documents show. OpenAI says that the actress who played >>>>> Sky was recording in the studio last July. >>>> >>>> Which is a complete crock of shit. >>>> Wrong again, counselor. >>> >>> Are you yet again under the impression that I wrote an article that I >>> quoted from the legacy corporate media? >>> >>> I'm not 'wrong again', Shit Shoes. I didn't say anything here to be wrong >>> about. All I did was post an interesting article about show business in a >>> TV newsgroup. > >> You posted Altman's lies. > > No, MSN/MSNBC/NBC put his comments in their article. Cite? I merely posted the > article. > >> Why didn't you post Altman calling his new AI voice: "Her"? > > Because that wasn't in MSN/MSNBC/NBC's article. Are you finally coming > around to the fact that the corporate legacy media can't be trusted? > > Well, to quote a famous Christmas movie, "Welcome to the party, pal."