Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Last Doctor Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: How to retcon Rogue Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 14:58:26 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:58:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="55d9a887fd6e9c6e44f5dd475717bec2"; logging-data="1805739"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+XA8Nr8Rxif6RYTapVKJoN" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6lFgllfR38lbaNiAyI6L+AIvpPI= sha1:/vaEX8uW3th7XQC5EWZDxyUGHaM= Bytes: 3286 Daniel70 wrote: > The Doctor wrote on 12/6/24 7:46 am: >> In article , The True Doctor >> wrote: >>> On 11/06/2024 20:01, Agent Jakanov wrote: >>>> The Doctor was so out of character in this episode, but I think >>>> it can be explained by something similar to the spray drug that >>>> Owen used in the first episode of Torchwood to make people find >>>> him attractive against their will. >>> >>> Doctor Who ended in 2017! All of this is Peter Capaldi >>> hallucinating in the last moments of his life on the event horizon >>> of a black hole after being shot by the Cybermen. >> >> And getting nailed at the North Pole. > > Now! Now! Gobble-de-gook, no need to tell YOUR fantasies to us!! None of “Twice Upon a Time” - which Aggie has now retroactively excised from his view of what is canon - was set at the North Pole, so I don’t know when Dave thinks the Doctor was getting pegged - sorry, nailed. But I disagree with the OP’s premise. The Doctor here is entirely in tune with the PTSD-suffering, vulnerable character that Ncuti has been presenting to us. The bright, brittle way in which he wants to move on swiftly and ignore every trauma shows that he is still deeply wounded by losing the Time Lords forever for the third time (first at the end of the Time War - then figuratively by realising that as the Timeless Child he is an orphan and alien to his homeworld - then again when the Master wipes them out). He’s still running away from the implications of that, as she did by ignoring the fob watch that contained the secrets of her hidden past. He’s desperate to make connections and for people to have meaningful relationships - and that includes himself, subconsciously. Yes, his infatuation with Rogue is a bit swift but that’s partly an artefact of the 42 minute story limitation, and I excuse it by figuring that the emotional damage he’s suffered makes it likely that when something hits him it will hit hard and fast. “Rogue” doesn’t need fixing. It’s pretty good just as it is. -- “Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor