Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: (OT) Windows 10 won't back up to an internal HD? Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 02:33:31 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 99 Message-ID: References: <24q9O.17886$6Fcc.17282@fx09.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 04:33:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="76070370f940e3b30460a3350f1255eb"; logging-data="908045"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19GXtHlyBq5+gfL80rqR5LD" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LRrDJkjCA1CwU0TA/4H67qdpcBc= Bytes: 6676 On 2024-06-10, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > On 2024-06-10 11:34 a.m., RonB wrote: >> On 2024-06-10, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>> On 2024-06-09 7:44 p.m., RonB wrote: >>>> On 2024-06-09, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>> On 2024-06-08 5:06 a.m., RonB wrote: >>>>>> My wife's Windows 10 computer (Inspiron, not my choice) came with a 256GB >>>>>> SSD and a 1TB hard drive. Stupid me, I assumed that Dell would set up it up >>>>>> so the program data would save on the TB hard drive and the applications >>>>>> would run from the SSD. Nope. Everything ran on the SSD and all data was >>>>>> saved there. The hard drive is just a drone, sitting there and doing >>>>>> nothing. (I just discovered this.) >>>>>> >>>>>> So after about three years, her computer slowed way down. I assumed she >>>>>> needed more memory and bought a 32GB SIM (so she now has 40GBs of RAM). >>>>>> Still slow. Then I realized that she had filled up her SSD. It actually had >>>>>> only 25MBs free tonight. It's a wonder it ran at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I ordered a 1TB SSD, and tonight cloned it in an external enclosure and >>>>>> installed it. Worked well (the SSD came with Acronis True Disk). I saw that >>>>>> Acronis had a backup utility as well, so figured I would back up the new SSD >>>>>> to the practically unused hard drive... and I found out Microsoft doesn't >>>>>> like backing up to an internal hard drive. Why does it have this limitation? >>>>>> >>>>>> For those of you who use Windows, is there any way to make Windows 10 back >>>>>> up to an internal hard drive? I've seen something about making the internal >>>>>> drive a "network drive," which seems kind of convoluted. Is there any >>>>>> application that overrides this (to me) senseless limitation? And why does >>>>>> Windows 10 have this limitation — is there a logical reason for it? >>>>>> (Apparently Windows 7 didn't have this limitation.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind of ranting. Sorry. But I would like to see my wife's internal hard >>>>>> drive set up for backups — if possible. >>>>> >>>>> It might be a situation similar to my mother's Intel NUC. There were two >>>>> HDs in there, one of which was used exclusively to re-image the SSD in >>>>> case of failure. As far as I know, it was write-protected though I have >>>>> never admitted to actually use it. >>>> >>>> No, the hard drive is just a standard hard drive (it's seen as the D: >>>> drive). You can access it and copy files to it manually, but you can't set >>>> up backup on it (directly from Windows, anyhow). Apparently this changed >>>> with the release of Windows 10, Windows 7 (and, I think, 8) would backup to >>>> internal hard drives. I've got to believe there is an application to do >>>> this, but none that I've found so far specifically say they will work with >>>> an internal hard drive. I really don't quite understand why Windows 10/11 >>>> has this limitation. >>> >>> I'm surprised that anyone even uses the Windows Backup system, to be >>> honest. Every time I've taken a look at it, it appeared to be little >>> more than an automated process to copy your Documents and Pictures >>> folders elsewhere. >> >> I'm totally ignorant about the best way to back up Windows. I just know I >> have a 1 TB drive that's not being used and figured it would work well to >> back up the SSD. >> >> Any suggestions on backup software. The SSD came with Acronis (and includes >> a backup feature, but it doesn't allow me to use the internal hard drive for >> this? > > Here is what Brave's search offered me when I searched for a free > alternative to Macrium Reflect: > > Veeam Agent: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect with most of the same > features. Check the latest release as it might have fixed the issue > you’re experiencing. > Rescuezilla: An open-source, free alternative to Macrium Reflect. It’s > also a disk imaging tool that can be used for backups and cloning. > Clonezilla: A free and open-source disk cloning tool that can be used as > an alternative to Macrium Reflect. > Duplicati: A free, open-source backup tool that can be used for disk > imaging and cloning. > Déjà Dup: A free, open-source backup tool that can be used for disk > imaging and cloning. > Redo Rescue: A free, open-source disk imaging tool that can be used as > an alternative to Macrium Reflect. > AOMEI Backupper: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect with more > complete features. It’s a disk imaging and cloning tool that can be used > for backups and cloning. > EaseUS ToDo Backup: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect that supports > disk image backups on a fixed backup schedule. > MiniTool ShadowMaker: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect that > supports disk image backups and cloning. > Paragon Backup & Recovery: A free alternative to Macrium Reflect that > supports disk image backups and cloning. > FBackup: A free backup software for both personal and commercial use > that can be used as an alternative to Macrium Reflect. Okay, thanks. I've saved your list to Simplenote and will work through them. I think I have looked at a couple of them and they had the same limitation on not using the internal hard drive. At any rate, thanks for the list. -- [Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." "It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine