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Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> bad💽sector wrote on Sat, 25 May 2024 21:43:23 -0400 :
> 
>> In order to have any meaningful correlation between cell phones in cars 
>> and their effect on accidents one would have to know how many of those 
>> cell phones were in use while driving and also the accident rate in 
>> those cars as compared to the others. Without this in the case of 
>> cell-phone correlation the supplied study provides just irrelevant 
>> statistical noise.
> 
> You bring up a point that we discussed in gory detail in the past, which is
> that nobody knows much about the actual usage rate of cellphones. We all
> know people use them; but we have no reliable data on how much they're
> used.
> 
> I covered this in gory detail where the NHTSA reports every May of every
> year (as I recall) on cellphone *usage* rates; but - get this - they
> calculate that at red lights. Yes. Red lights. They hvae a person sitting
> on the side peering into vehicles to note how many people are using them.
> 
> Clearly this is a flawed statistic

Flawed how?

> Again, this was covered in gory detail in the past, the point being that
> the most *reliable* statistic we have is the accident rate (which is number
> of accidents normalized by the number of miles driven).

Why is it reliable?

It's obvious that not all accidents are ever captured. Fender benders where
no-one is hurt nor involves police nor is reported to insurance, for
example.