Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Inductance meter for BIST Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:36:28 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2024 15:36:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e345861c29b1141c2c7b79693a50f21e"; logging-data="333613"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18NBxB7RA8k1J8ttyiz3v0d" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:e9G9qpdZ+H8frBRGspRgddiuxHs= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2678 On 4/9/24 16:19, John Larkin wrote: > On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 17:17:15 -0700, john larkin wrote: > >> I can build this into my new programmable inductor module, for >> self-test. With a 1% cap, it should be plenty good. L range will be >> 750 mH down to maybe 10 mH, part of simulating solenoids and torque >> motors and such. >> >> If I add a switch to open R3 and run some current through R1, it can >> measure series resistance too. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tn8lpk38677ioylhdkget/P955_L-meter.jpg?rlkey=xynqyzfc2x020llr3a945c0td&raw=1 >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gojlqxj23r4m57ke9jhui/Ind_Meter_1.asc?rlkey=if40kmtiz49gp62bacfvju3uv&dl=0 > > Most L-meters, the AADE sort, lie or don't work with big Ls. > > This is better: > > https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9tex1slpnaqz4n2cbxp3n/Ind_Meter_Apr_9.jpg?rlkey=52vbyylc5ax48w54qdxm9r9cq&raw=1 > > Given a small uP, like the Rasp Pi thing, it could measure L and Rl > pretty easily. One could get compusive and math out the small > inductance measuring error from the inductor copper resistance. > > I need repeatability more than accuracy, and don't have time to > explore this very deep, but it's interesting. > > I've been buying shaftless torque motors off ebay, to understand them > electrically. We need to simulate a torque motor. > > What's R1 (1G to +5) for? Are torque motors actually predominantly inductive? Just because it has coils doesn't necessarily mean it is so. Jeroen Belleman