From: Jim Burns Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IGJlY2F1c2UgZ+KkqChn4oG7wrkoeCkpID0gZyh5KSBbMS8yXSBS?= =?UTF-8?Q?e=3A_how?= Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 21:14:48 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <4P8mN6L4GiZRL_cw9VoFlkFRsyI@jntp> <0682ec96-856f-4659-918d-f4f08edada3e@att.net> <6xC7D4OsaY-Dbt6UCvgZwElFXdY@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 03:14:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ba4ae244cd27e701141832087bd74da2"; logging-data="303601"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18WN0xjl3booaPwbwzrWqL1CFnnDsijap8=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:kO4foYOtCnRfxti08bnD0U3huZY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2554 On 5/8/2024 8:35 PM, Moebius wrote: > Am 08.05.2024 um 23:55 schrieb Jim Burns: >> ℕ_def is what everyone else calls ℕ > >>> ∀n ∈ ℕ_def: ∃^ℵo m ∈ ℕ, m > n. [WM] >> >> ∀n ∈ ℕ_def: ∃^ℵo m ∈ ℕ_def, m > n. > > In this case, I'd prefer > > ∀ n ∈ ℕ: ∃^ℵo m ∈ ℕ: m > n. In favor of your preference: a randomly.selected internetter such as yourself is likely to find that less distracting from what's being said. Against your preference: WM thinks ℕ is larger than ℕ_def and he will look at the non.finite claims about ℕ and claim they are caused by darkᵂᴹ numbers. (I know what I said. He is very good at ignoring.) A dead horse I wish to beat one more time is that it is the finite numbers -- all of them together -- which have these non.finite properties. I wish to fence WM's explanations from "darkᵂᴹ numbers in bigger set"